Considering the incentives I have been given to enter teaching are directly linked to my degree classification they seem to be doing a really rubbish job of trying to discourage graduates from entering the career...
Did you agree with the Strike today?
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Considering the incentives I have been given to enter teaching are directly linked to my degree classification they seem to be doing a really rubbish job of trying to discourage graduates from entering the career...
It isn't the parents striking, it is the Teachers, so it is they that are failing to get their message across to the students. Which is sort of ironic considering their role...
Degree clasification doesn't make the teacher. See the flaw?
Most people with first class degrees have no communication skills. Didn't get laid at uni and have no idea how to click with school or college kids.
It is a good start though. Having confidence in your subject knowledge certainly helps when in front of a classroom.
Most people with first class degrees have no communication skills. Didn't get laid at uni and have no idea how to click with school or college kids.
You sound terribly bitter...
In my experience they really aren't.
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Degree clasification doesn't make the teacher. See the flaw?
Most people with first class degrees have no communication skills. Didn't get laid at uni and have no idea how to click with school or college kids.
Exactly.
Look at all these PGCE's - any school worth their salt will take a candidate with a 4 year teaching qualification over a PGCE any day. The only schools that take PGCE candidates are the ones that "4 year" holders don't want to work in
And this is what winds the government up - how dare people choose where they want to work! Hence opening up "competition" by allowing untrained ex-military to be fast tracked into teaching for example.
"Social media mum and dad", dear me. I think you mean "equally hard-working mum and dad who have to deal with their employment conditions changing because striking isn't an option", perhaps?
Really? This is actually happening, is it? Teachers are explaining in detail to their classes why they are having a day off, and what they expect the result will be? Somehow I doubt this. (And if they are, I wonder what material they were supposed to be teaching which they decided to skip!)
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The teachers used to do nothing but "inform" us about their latest life problems. Endless whining about just about everything under the sun. I've never experienced anything like it since secondary school. Not at 6th forum, not at uni.
The fact is, the government is their employer. If they don't like the terms, find another job just like everyone else.
Yes, I'm aware they're unlikely to find a teaching job in the UK without being employed by the government. But if they were stupid enough not to realise this before they took the job, the shouldn't be a teacher.
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Yes, I explained to my class why we weren't in today, why I wouldn't be at work and why our school was predominantly closed.
Exactly.
Look at all these PGCE's - any school worth their salt will take a candidate with a 4 year teaching qualification over a PGCE any day. The only schools that take PGCE candidates are the ones that "4 year" holders don't want to work in
Thanks, glad to know my route into teaching is worthless...
Odd that the schools taking trainees seem to have a different idea, but I am sure you know more than them.
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Nearly everyone has the option to strike. Because some people have no backbone isn't "because striking isn't an option".
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This is connected in many ways to a certain Michael Gove... Who just doesn't seem to think things through when making changes to a system.
The list is endless, but they are some of the ones not even connected to pay, pensions and performance management.
Most of the issues teachers have are not about the pay/holidays, it is the way the profession is being handled and the number of changes being implemented without any consultation, planning, evaluation.
- Wipes away the ICT outdated curriculum (fine), but then can't publish a replacement for over a year, and even then it doesn't have levels attached so teachers have no progress indicators for students.
- Tells children they shouldn't be sexting (which is fair enough), but they should be sending love poems instead.
- It is wrong that students take their Maths or English exam more then once at secondary school, but they have to go to college and shouldn't leave until they have passed them both. This then discourages schools from entering a student more than once, meaning they don't get the C grade and might not get on to their college course.
- Believes that teachers have the power to make ALL students succeed, regardless of a child's home life and support they get.
- Changes the way school are to be judged 1 month in to a new school term, when both students and teachers preparing for exams.
- Prepares to scrap the level system for KS3, but says the government should come up with a replacement, it should be outstanding schools and the rest should follow - even though there are no examples yet!
- Wants all students to do the same subjects as he did at school, even so far as Latin, which he feels is a modern foreign language.
- Has introduced about 4 different key ways of measuring schools progress, but keeps switching between which is the most important.
The list is endless, but they are some of the ones not even connected to pay, pensions and performance management.
Most of the issues teachers have are not about the pay/holidays, it is the way the profession is being handled and the number of changes being implemented without any consultation, planning, evaluation.
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Thanks, glad to know my route into teaching is worthless...
Odd that the schools taking trainees seem to have a different idea, but I am sure you know more than them.
I didn't say worthless - just less valuable. You'll get a job after all the "4 year" candidates have been snapped up - there are still more vacancies in teaching than there are students so it's a guaranteed job at the end of the day. I do wonder why there aren't more students than vacancies though if it's such a great profession with excellent perks etc?
You're probably looking at teaching in a deprived area so that's why they're keen to pull PGCE candidates in. And that's why they offer training placements as guarantees for PGCEs as "4 years" can go where they like.
PS - if you haven't figured it out by now, my wife is a teacher (deputy head). As are her parents. And my cousin. And both my Aunt and Uncle. And another Aunt. And my sister is training to be a TA. And I'm a Governor. Of two schools.
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Sounds like they should push for his resignation more than anything else.
