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Nvidia spends 5 million on Ubisoft deal

I just hope Watch Dogs lives up to its premise and doesn't end up being rubbish. I haven't played an AC game since getting board of AC Brotherhood, I loved AC2. So far i have managed to avoid using the PITA that is U-play.

I do think making games that look really good in 4K at the moment is a bit pointless given that most people can't afford a 4K monitor or the GPU setup required to run one. I wish they would put the time and the effort into making games that looked truly amazing at more standard resolutions instead.
 
A large part of the cost of these deals is the free games... they aren't actually free ;)

They are doing a limited edition card with BF4 but that is small numbers, 8000, but we're talking about a BF4 sticker on the heatsink, maybe a couple extra items and some dog tags in the box or something equally original and useful :p

I wouldn't be surprised to see a crapload of r290x/290/280's come with bf4 as part of the bundle of games AMD does. How many games did they give away "free" in their bundles in the past year. They'll get good pricing but they'll get a crapload of free games to pass off to AMD buyers for their $5-8mil BF4 deal, and Nvidia will get a buttload of games for $5mil to do the same.

Thing is via consoles the ubisoft games will be well optimised for AMD anyway, does help Nvidia get some optimisation and work themselves, maybe some bonus items.

meh, Ass Creed, found the last one pretty meh. It was interesting to a point having it a different location but ultimately so much of it was silly and the story was..... meh. Watchdogs looks like a potentially interesting game but it's got a bit of easymode feel to it. The video's they showed what, at the console launches all seemed a bit, 58 options, hold a button, win. It looked pretty but I'm not sure the gameplay will be complex/interesting enough to not be completely repetitive. I don't have particularly high hopes for any of the three games(bf4 and these two). BF4 is the most interesting from a technological viewpoint with Mantle but I found Bf3 really unplayable, as in I literally never got into it, played for maybe a week, was bored.

Did Ubisoft give up on U-play or just their particularly aggressive DRM methods, I remember them back tracking on something but not sure what. Logging in to yet another program is irksome.
 
And to cover the cost of this their going to both have to raise their gpu prices.....o, they already done this. Customer aint winning. Aaaaa look at me being the spoil sport/glass half empty. :)
 
Good to see. This can only mean good things for the gaming industry.

I have to admit between the two im glad AMD went with Dice/Battlefield 4/Frostbite game engine though.

Hmm, I think Nvidia got the better deal tbh, a decent Nvidia card runs BF fine, added optimizations for Assassins Creed /Watch Dogs / Witcher 3 / Batman and the Call of Duty games etc is more interesting imho.

Hopefully ValveOS will do away with all this stupid API, developer backhanders to run better on certain hardware. Would much rather a unified platform that allowed all hardware to run at it's best without propriety gimmicks from both sides. That would be in an ideal world anyway. Next few years will be a lot of changes. Linux, OpenGL, Mantle, Steambox. PC gaming is going to evolve..
 
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AMD have the next gen consoles...... so anyone thinking of buying a new Nvidia GPU should think again :(

I was ready to drop £500 on a GTX780 then thought hang on in 6-12 months Nvidia will be were AMD were 2 years ago....nowhere & selling at cost to get market share :eek:

£5m is a waste of money when Nvidia will have to reverse engineer many future PC games thats going to hurt them a lot more than the revenue drop from the next gen GPU console contracts they opted out of :eek:
 
AMD have the next gen consoles...... so anyone thinking of buying a new Nvidia GPU should think again :(

I was ready to drop £500 on a GTX780 then thought hang on in 6-12 months Nvidia will be were AMD were 2 years ago....nowhere & selling at cost to get market share :eek:

£5m is a waste of money when Nvidia will have to reverse engineer many future PC games thats going to hurt them a lot more than the revenue drop from the next gen GPU console contracts they opted out of :eek:

I think maybe you have the wrong idea about consoles VS PC, and what it means that AMD have their own GPU's in the consoles.. The new consoles are using a X86 architecture, which is actually more friendly for everyone not just AMD. GCN the GPU's architecture is heavily compute based, Nvidia's Maxwell is rumored to be a monster arch, compute power n all. Capable of utilizing system ram, and something like 16 times performance per watt of Kepler. To count Nvidia out is just silly tbh.

Nvidia have signed a deal for a lot of the big game titles. Assassins Creed / Watch Dogs / Witcher 3 / Batman and the Call of Duty games. Could still have the performance edge over AMD in all of the those AAA games, will likely team up with Valve and lead the way with the Steam ValveOS OpenGL take over of the living room.

Nvidia had massive financial success with Kepler, I can't see Maxwell being any different.
 
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I think maybe you have the wrong idea about consoles VS PC, and what it means that AMD have their own GPU's in the consoles.. The new consoles are using a X86 architecture, which is actually more friendly for everyone not just AMD. GCN the GPU's architecture is heavily compute based, Nvidia's Maxwell is rumored to be a monster arch, compute power n all. Capable of utilizing system ram, and something like 16 times performance per watt of Kepler. To count Nvidia out is just silly tbh.

Nvidia have signed a deal for a lot of the big game titles. Assassins Creed / Watch Dogs / Witcher 3 / Batman and the Call of Duty games. Could still have the performance edge over AMD in all of the those AAA games, will likely team up with Valve and lead the way with the Steam ValveOS OpenGL take over of the living room.

Nvidia had massive financial success with Kepler, I can't see Maxwell being any different.
Those games are all 2013 titles I cannot see 2014 being a good year to buy/own an Nvidia GPU anymore they will be on the other side of the NDA fence which AMD are on right now having to optimize games AFTER their release not before as TWIMTBP program will no longer be viable on multiple platform PC games.

No amount of Nvidia GPU grunt can compensate for driver support/optimisation watch the green prices go down the toilet in the next 6-9 months Nvidia have no way to get back in this generation they blew it by being too arrogant to compromise on price as MS + Sony both wanted their GPU's at a certain price for their consoles Nvidia have PC gaming left & that's it apart from the business side of NVS cards they blew their chance to dominate the next 10 years & handed AMD an open goal as Nvidia can only invest heavily in PC games exclusive to Nvidia high end GPU's which is not even a mass market regardless :rolleyes:
 
Those games are all 2013 titles I cannot see 2014 being a good year to buy/own an Nvidia GPU anymore they will be on the other side of the NDA fence which AMD are on right now having to optimize games AFTER their release not before as TWIMTBP program will no longer be viable on multiple platform PC games.

No amount of Nvidia GPU grunt can compensate for driver support/optimisation watch the green prices go down the toilet in the next 6-9 months Nvidia have no way to get back in this generation they blew it by being too arrogant to compromise on price as MS + Sony both wanted their GPU's at a certain price for their consoles Nvidia have PC gaming left & that's it apart from the business side of NVS cards they blew their chance to dominate the next 10 years & handed AMD an open goal as Nvidia can only invest heavily in PC games exclusive to Nvidia high end GPU's which is not even a mass market regardless :rolleyes:

What? How on earth do you know? What if Nvidia's 20nm parts totally destroy AMD's 20nm parts in performance? Maybe no amount of AMD software optimisation would be able to compensate for the lack of power.....
 
Those games are all 2013 titles I cannot see 2014 being a good year to buy/own an Nvidia GPU anymore they will be on the other side of the NDA fence which AMD are on right now having to optimize games AFTER their release not before as TWIMTBP program will no longer be viable on multiple platform PC games.

No amount of Nvidia GPU grunt can compensate for driver support/optimisation watch the green prices go down the toilet in the next 6-9 months Nvidia have no way to get back in this generation they blew it by being too arrogant to compromise on price as MS + Sony both wanted their GPU's at a certain price for their consoles Nvidia have PC gaming left & that's it apart from the business side of NVS cards they blew their chance to dominate the next 10 years & handed AMD an open goal as Nvidia can only invest heavily in PC games exclusive to Nvidia high end GPU's which is not even a mass market regardless :rolleyes:

Don't worry, nVidia still have Tegra..... *snigger*
 
Those games are all 2013 titles I cannot see 2014 being a good year to buy/own an Nvidia GPU anymore they will be on the other side of the NDA fence which AMD are on right now having to optimize games AFTER their release not before as TWIMTBP program will no longer be viable on multiple platform PC games.

No amount of Nvidia GPU grunt can compensate for driver support/optimisation watch the green prices go down the toilet in the next 6-9 months Nvidia have no way to get back in this generation they blew it by being too arrogant to compromise on price as MS + Sony both wanted their GPU's at a certain price for their consoles Nvidia have PC gaming left & that's it apart from the business side of NVS cards they blew their chance to dominate the next 10 years & handed AMD an open goal as Nvidia can only invest heavily in PC games exclusive to Nvidia high end GPU's which is not even a mass market regardless :rolleyes:

If you step back and look at it logically, Nvidia are the (Current graphics leader, 'Market share') and have been for a long while. Is Nvidia really going to be hamstrung because AMD have midrange GPU's in consoles?

It's no where near that simple bud, Nvidia have buddied up with the biggest developers, they spend millions in R&D, they push PC technologies and aim directly at the enthusiast PC gamer market, you could argue they are just not interested in the console space. The next architecture is supposed to be revolutionary. Just because AMD have the console GPU contracts, won't stop PC enthusiast wanting the best hardware in their PC's, that could still well be Nvidia.

Nvidia's 'Maxwell' is going to be a monster arch, plain and simple, a lot of people might feel a lil foolish after spouting that Nvidia are simply going to roll over because AMD have console contracts.

Nvidia will push PC as it's primary platform, and lead the way with Valve on the living room OpenGL PC gaming thing, will go hand in hand with other portable devices Nvidia are working on.

Nvidia posted $1.1 Billion in revenue Q4 2013. I can't see them going anywhere..

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haha my exact thoughts. worst company in games.

Doesn't stop them pushing out awesome games, AMD have Battlefield and hopes for future on Mantle.

Meanwhile Nvidia have buddied up with the biggest franchises in gaming..

So with Battlefield on AMD hardware, you get no additional effects, and the promise of being able to run faster in the future using an new API. In contrast Nvidia can run Battlefield games even without needing Mantle now, and do offer unique effects in games. So overall an Nvidia card is still a better buy, if extra features and propriety gimmicks are your thing.

I hope that SteamOS unifies PC, would like to see the death of, Physx, Tress FX, and custom API's. A unified platform with all hardware running it's best would be so much better..

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Doesn't stop them pushing out awesome games, AMD have Battlefield and hopes for future on Mantle.

Meanwhile Nvidia have buddied up with the biggest franchises in gaming..

So with Battlefield on AMD hardware, you get no additional effects, and the promise of being able to run faster in the future using an new API. In contrast Nvidia can run Battlefield games even without needing Mantle now, and do offer unique effects in games. So overall an Nvidia card is still a better buy, if extra features and propriety gimmicks are your thing.

I hope that SteamOS unifies PC, would like to see the death of, Physx, Tress FX, and custom API's. A unified platform with all hardware running it's best would be so much better..

Some things you don't seem to get, TressFX works on Nvidia cards, AMD has a history of going open standard and not locked in where possible. It's simply not possible for AMD to make Mantle Nvidia compatible, its hardware dependant, it's very possible they will pass off Mantle(as they did HSA and other things) and Nvidia code can be added, but no one can expect AMD to write an API for Nvidia hardware, no one sensible anyway.

Nvidia have had a utility API for quite some time, nothing on the level of Mantle though. Third, you can't have a unified non custom API that will get the full performance out of completely different architectures, it's simply not possible. A full rewrite of DX or openGL for efficiency and latest hardware would get close but still not close enough if it has to support two entire different hardware types. So a custom API for each(while ditching everything else so there is only two) would be best.

As for relationships with game dev's. well while looking for a list this is one of the first hits I got.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...its-meant-to-be-played-vs-amd-gaming-evolved/

Nvidia's own forums and users asking why Nvidia logo's seem to barely be on any games anymore. This is precisely what he was getting at, 2 years ago Gaming Evolved was literally just being born and the previous game dev relationship was there but not pushed as hard and certainly not in as marketed/direct a way as TWIMTBP.

Over the past two years Gaming Evolved has quite easily surpassed TWIMTBP because aside from better support in many cases, all the game dev's know their engines will HAVE to be optimised for GCN hardware on the consoles, they have worked with AMD on all things console for two years. The console domination is probably the biggest single reason their game dev relationships are now stronger than Nvidia's.

That is why consoles will make AMD stronger, it's meant they all, Ubisoft included, already optimised almost every game they make for AMD hardware by design, their engines will be designed to work great on AMD hardware, even PC only games using a usually standard engine will be preoptimised for AMD hardware. That is a huge advantage.

Physx is really the only effect Nvidia can have that AMD can't(gpu accelerated anyway) and Nvidia pretty much pay companies to use it.

Maxwell afaik is not remotely supposed to be 16x faster watt for watt than Kepler, Nvidia have a history of making up numbers and fudging the facts. If it's the REALLY old graph then 16x faster is compared to something WAY before Kepler, if it's a newer number than no doubt it will be compared to a compute crippled(yet still high power using) 680gtx. But Titan has massive massive improvement in power per watt in compute over the 680gtx, it doesn't mean much.

If you think Nvidia have an architecture ready to go that is 16x more efficient than Kepler...... lol.

Maxwell will offer 16 times the performance of the current Fermi chip, chief executive Jen-Hsun Huang said.

Oh look.

AMD don't have just Battlefield, they have dozens of huge titles and game devs, Nvidia have only a few now.


Also from that link, Nvidia users seem to think Nvidia 3d Vision support is dead and burried........
 
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