Here's What It Will Cost New PC Owners To Play Watch Dogs

[Martini1991]

Don't forget new AMD cpus coming out late this year. They might be very different from current ones.

New AMD CPU's this year (If they make it) are APU's upto 4 cores on Steamroller, their total CPU performance may only tally up to a high clocking lynnfield 45nm i5 at the very best, which for what it is, is really good.

AM3+'s replacement CPU's are... Well.. We know more about the existence of God.

 

[Sin_Chase]

Hey, wash your mouth out with soap and water Sin. Roy has reached Hero status around these parts. He's particularly popular amongst the Nvidia community.

Nah, Roy can suck it

******* #tag @suckit

 

[Martini1991]

BF4 is putting 40-50% usage across all 4 Cores of my 2600k at 4.6GHz (HT enabled) and putting temps to places no other game ever has.

BF3 will put my CPU to between 55 and 65 Degrees TOPS. BF4 chucks it up to 72! It's certainly utilising dem cores.

I don't argue that this build is using the cores, but that doesn't detract from it being an older build, etc.

I expect the release to use the cores too (As long as it's not doing it for the crack) that's not a problem.

 

[~>Dg<~]

i7 might only be four physical cores, but as BF4 has proven that you get a big performance increase with Hyper threading enabled as the game can effectively treat it as 8 cores.

there are as many benchmarks showing better fps with hyper threading off as there is with it on ! people tend to favor results that is same as there pc

hyper threading with 2 cards or more yes but single cards nope no difference or literally no difference. can be worse.

 

[LtMatt]

Nah, Roy can suck it

******* #tag @suckit

there are as many benchmarks showing better fps with hyper threading off as there is with it on ! people tend to favor results that is same as there pc

hyper threading with 2 cards or more yes but single cards nope no difference or literally no difference. can be worse.

Such as? I thought you the days of HT gimping gaming performance were all but gone on recent titles. I never turn HT off.

 

[sand_dune]

New AMD CPU's this year (If they make it) are APU's upto 4 cores on Steamroller, their total CPU performance may only tally up to a high clocking lynnfield 45nm i5 at the very best, which for what it is, is really good.

AM3+'s replacement CPU's are... Well.. We know more about the existence of God.

It's hard to imagine AMD won't offer any new 8 core CPUs

 

[Sin_Chase]

I don't argue that this build is using the cores, but that doesn't detract from it being an older build, etc.

I expect the release to use the cores too (As long as it's not doing it for the crack) that's not a problem.

Ninja edit on the last part? Did not see the part about where you clarified the intention of your post.

 

[Martini1991]

It's hard to imagine AMD won't offer any new 8 core CPUs

And nobody has said they won't.
Rather how and when they're getting here, and it won't be this year, that's for sure.

 

[Martini1991]

Ninja edit on the last part? Did not see the part about where you clarified the intention of your post.

You're confusing me

 

[Glanza]

Finally something that will hopefully actually make my pc sweat abit

 

[Rroff]

There no way on earth that you are going to need 8 cores, if that was the case then this game is marketed at about 5% of the pc market

Sadly a lot of upcoming games seem to be optimised to run over 8 not particular powerful cores (I wonder why) - fortunately means that they utilise HT units well so 4 core/8 thread Intel CPUs will probably remain king but means 8 real core CPUs will do better than in the past while higher clock rate 4 cores will become less useful :| (even though theres no good reason for them not doing well technically).


(This isn't a good thing as your trading low level latency for better threading utilisation which while acceptable on a console isn't great on PC).

 

[Sin_Chase]

You're confusing me

Nevermind.

I thought your post was alluding to BF4 being all over the place at utilising cores/threads but what you were really getting at was it appears to cripple a 6 Core AMD chip and a 4 Core Intel chip offers better performance.

 

[=XDC=FluphyBunny]

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AMD have a real chance of shaking up the market with 8 core Steamroller chips. With future games taking advantage of 8 cores. The opportunity is their, it all depends if AMD can execute while they have that opportunity. Intel's 8 core Haswell's will be out next year...

Haswell E 8 cores won't be competing with amd 8 cores. Regardless of performance the price will put them in different markets. Intel E chips are a minute segment of the pc gaming market.

I would love to see amd come to the table with a steamrollor 8 core capable of coming anywhere near clock for clock i7 pace for amd. With Broadwell a likely tock (if that) they could really push their brand.

 

[Fire_fly]

The sooner Intel bring out affordable 6/8 core CPUs and AMD improve their CPUs' single threaded performance the better.

 

[Martini1991]

Nevermind.

I thought your post was alluding to BF4 being all over the place at utilising cores/threads but what you were really getting at was it appears to cripple a 6 Core AMD chip and a 4 Core Intel chip offers better performance.

The point about it crippling the 6 core was more the performance being a bit over the place.
It can use resources, not necessarily efficiently, as a summary.

 

[VincentHanna]

Actually we're sort of arguing around the issue.

The Ultra recommended specs list 8 cores and then say e.g Intel i7 3930k.....which has 6 physical cores, so they must take HT in to account.

 

[gpuerrilla]

New AMD CPU's this year (If they make it) are APU's upto 4 cores on Steamroller, their total CPU performance may only tally up to a high clocking lynnfield 45nm i5 at the very best, which for what it is, is really good.

If you were toying on getting a new bundle (CPU/RAM/Mobo) would you wait for the new APU with improvements but only 4 steamroller cores, or get the FX8 as it could be 6 months till steamroller 8 core?

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

I guess there had to be a point where things moved on from 4 cores just as when they moved on from 2 cores. Slightly surprised we haven't stopped off at 6 cores along the way though, unless AMD paid a bit of money to companies to get 8 cores recommended in an attempt to make the 6-core i7s look like they wouldn't be up to the job.

Whatever, if it makes AMD CPUs more competitive then that might hopefully push Intel to release a more substantial update to their lines.

Haswell E 8 cores won't be competing with amd 8 cores. Regardless of performance the price will put them in different markets. Intel E chips are a minute segment of the pc gaming market.

I'd imagine that currently within gaming circles both the Intel E chips and the AMD FX chips are pretty minute segments of the market!

 

[Boomstick777]

Don't forget new AMD cpus coming out late this year. They might be very different from current ones.

Did you miss this part of my post you quoted?

AMD have a real chance of shaking up the market with 8 core Steamroller chips. With future games taking advantage of 8 cores. The opportunity is their, it all depends if AMD can execute while they have that opportunity. Intel's 8 core Haswell's will be out next year...

AMD's new chips are Steamroller based.

 

[Martini1991]

If you were toying on getting a new bundle (CPU/RAM/Mobo) would you wait for the new APU with improvements but only 4 steamroller cores, or get the FX8 as it could be 6 months till steamroller 8 core?

I wouldn't be getting the APU.
What I did would depend on my budget, but the APU wouldn't enter into it.