More gay men in UK than gay women
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how so?
Aside from the visual image of a dude going down on another dude, I think the whole idea of a man loving both genders is a bit strange.
Don't get me wrong, I genuinely am beyond caring what other people do in their lives (less so when it impacts others in areas such as adoption, though that is merely my opinion, I'm not offering concrete right or wrongs), I just think that surely it would detract from a possibly happy monogamous relationship with someone?
No matter how much you might love someone, and wnat to give them everything, you would never be able to fully satisfy someone. Even with homosexuals they are for one particular gender and even though I may find it distasteful, they are happy with it.
meh, I'm chronically tired, so much so I can barely see the screen. I'll probably read this in the morning and go "wtf".
night!
not really, it just the same as straight or gay men fancying other people during the course of their relationship, doesn't stop you being monogamous or devoted does it?
only difference is for us some of the people we pass in the street that we find attractive are men and some are women, instead of one or the other.
love the person, not the genitals
This exactly. There is a huge hole for support groups for men outside of teens, there are a lot of teens that go through all kinds of abuse, depression etc that are scared to turn to the NHS etc. (trust me, I know!) due to numerous things however of course there are anonymous boards out on the internet have helped a huge amount of people. Not so many for adults though. And Tefal is absolutely spot on with what I'd call peer pressure, or more so society pressure, men are frowned upon for asking for help, or that's how they see it at least. Personally I wouldn't say you could cure depression at all, let alone alone. I'm not sure if people will agree with me though.
That's not actually what was said.
The results of this study, which nobody has mentioned any details of, was that a certain percentage of the men who were asked said that they were gay.
You're assuming that the answers are accurate and that your extrapolation of the results to the entire population is accurate. Maybe your assumptions are correct. Maybe they aren't. A lot depends on the sample and the questions (all of them, not just the "are you gay" one) and the way the study was done - it's very easy to get an unrepresentative result even if you're trying not to.
A million gay men in the UK sounds a bit on the low end of plausible to me. Homosexuality isn't common, but it's not all that rare. Although...how gay is gay? Sexuality is a spectrum, not two discrete groups.
I'm not convinced by the argument that women are so much more incompetent than men when it comes to suicide. I know it's something we're expected to believe because thinking otherwise might lead to people challenging the dominant belief that everything is worse for women because men have made it that way, but I don't find it a compelling argument. There are less violent ways to kill yourself if you're committed to doing it, e.g. overdose where and when nobody will find you before you're dead. So I think a significant number of the "slow and non-violent" suicide attempts are by people who want to be found and rescued before they die, i.e. not really a suicide attempt.
People generally find sexual orientations other than their own a bit strange. It's a reasonable and understandable position.
Not necessarily, no. It's not fundamentally different.
I'll try to explain with some general examples:
Person A is homosexual. They are in a relationship with 1 other person. They might be attracted to some other people. This might be a problem for their monogamous relationship, but it probably won't be.
Person B is heterosexual. They are in a relationship with 1 other person. They might be attracted to some other people. This might be a problem for their monogamous relationship, but it probably won't be.
Person C is bisexual. They are in a relationship with 1 other person. They might be attracted to some other people. This might be a problem for their monogamous relationship, but it probably won't be.
"bisexual" doesn't necessarily mean "feels compelled to have heterosex and homosex". I understand why a fair few people assume it does, but it doesn't. It might, for some people and to varying extents, but it doesn't necessarily mean that and it doesn't preclude satisfying monogamous relationships.
Percentage of partners = sexuality? Obviously its not ad simple as that buy i find its a good rule.
I think it comes back to women having more support groups and therefore get told the usual "its not worth it" and "permanent solution to temporary problem" etc. Whereas men are less likely to get told that and therefore don't really think about it. I'm not really sure :L
I think it comes back to women having more support groups and therefore get told the usual "its not worth it" and "permanent solution to temporary problem" etc. Whereas men are less likely to get told that and therefore don't really think about it. I'm not really sure :L
well im not sure what you mean by "not convinced" its what the statistics say, there are more suicide attempts by women than men, there are also mroe reports of suicidal thoughts by women than men. a big factor there is that women go get help.
but there are far more successful attempts by men than women.
the differences in method are also a matter of record, women typically choose overdose and Exsanguination, men typically choose hanging or impact.
it's not that men are "better" at it it's just they tend to chose more "brutal" methods.
overdose believe it or not is actually quite low success rate often because most people doing it do not consider the necessity for anti emetics and throw up once they;ve lost consciousness also it requires access to prescription drugs, over the counter drugs such as paracetamol will work (hence why sales are restricted in how many you can buy) but it will take potentially many months to actually kill you.
According to videos on pornotube there are far more lesbians about than gay men
All women are a bit bi though, man, when I was at university I saw so many women getting off with each other to reel in men.
I'm not fussed, if it's all aboard the mantrain/ carpet coaster then good luck to them, enjoy.
Hmmm, not sure about the 'all women are a bit bi though'.
Most of the girls I knew/saw who would get off with each other was done as a saucy show for the men only, nothing to do with actually being attracted to each other.
Yep, I would argue that it is more a case of them not being repulsed by eachother, than them being attracted to eachother.
You don't need to have a burning desire to do something, to also be ok with doing something.
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Haha, nice to see someone saying it how it is.
A good point.
It's also why men are less comfortable hugging/kissing (non-sexual way) than women on average, even men who have no issues with homosexuality (just a by-product of modern society based on how men are meant to act).
I have to admit that I feel less comfortable being 'touchy feely' in a normal friend way with men than women (which I'd attribute to growing up in this culture).
A bit bi, I mean, I've never gotten off with a bloke, even to put on a show for the women.
The fact they can do it is surely indicative that they aren't repulsed by the idea of performing same sex foolery.
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