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Crowort · 7 Oct 2013 at 18:48

I just did the same kind of thing Hamster. Hopefully a last push will get us a few more votes in the right way. It is quite hard to keep up the the amendments and what they really mean, so thanks for the right number. Makes the message easier to send via Twitter and for them to understand what you are talking about.

Bit sad that only Rebecca Taylor and Chris Davies seem to be using twitter on this matter very much. http://www.chrisdaviesmep.org.uk/show_your_support_for_e_cigarettes Chris Davies has a petition you might also what to sign.

Twirlywoos · 7 Oct 2013 at 18:59

I did the Chris Davies one as he falls under my constituency. Already had an automated reply.

"Dear Colleague

Tomorrow we vote on the Tobacco Products Directive and Amendment 170 on e-cigs – which now has the support of the PPE, ALDE and ECR groups as well as many individual S&D MEPs.

E-cigs have the potential dramatically to reduce smoking-related disease. I have hundreds of testimonies from smokers who say they like them, have better health, and no longer want to smoke tobacco.

Excuse the personal note but maybe you have had someone in your family who has died of lung cancer. My father was a heavy smoker – totally addicted, he always had a cigarette in his hands. Nicotine patches would never have been of use to him. But I can imagine him using e-cigs, if only to stop smoking inside the house. They might have given him a few more years of life.

Amendment 170 introduces strict controls on the advertising and marketing of e-cigs, and ensures product safety. But it does not force them to be treated as medicinal products that will restrict their availability.

E-cigs could save millions of lives. We should not make them harder to buy than tobacco.

All the best

Chris Davies MEP"

Chris Davies MEP

Hamster · 7 Oct 2013 at 19:04

Crowort said:
I just did the same kind of thing Hamster. Hopefully a last push will get us a few more votes in the right way. It is quite hard to keep up the the amendments and what they really mean, so thanks for the right number. Makes the message easier to send via Twitter and for them to understand what you are talking about.

Bit sad that only Rebecca Taylor and Chris Davies seem to be using twitter on this matter very much. http://www.chrisdaviesmep.org.uk/show_your_support_for_e_cigarettes Chris Davies has a petition you might also what to sign.

A lot of the MEPs don't tweet much but I'm sure the tweets do get read daily by their interns who pass on comments and feelings from their constituents if they're in a sizeable number.

According to Chris Davies, we are close to a majority but like you say, a final push from us will hopefully swing it in our direction. 10 minutes of our time could potentially help a lifetime of misery back on cigarettes.

(Thanks for posting the Chris Davies link and I've edited my post to include a link to Clive Bates' blog which gives some information on amendment 170)

http://www.clivebates.com/?p=1526

Crowort · 7 Oct 2013 at 19:08

Most of my MEPs are on our side, the Labour one is backing Linda so no help there of course.

Hamster · 7 Oct 2013 at 19:15

Crowort said:
Most of my MEPs are on our side, the Labour one is backing Linda so no help there of course.

It's a shame really. Not what I would have expected from the party with the background of liberalism. I for one, as a lifelong labour voter, will never stick my cross in their box in any election ever again.

Crowort · 7 Oct 2013 at 19:16

Hamster said:
It's a shame really. Not what I would have expected from the party with the background of liberalism. I for one, as a lifelong labour supporter, will never vote for them in any election ever again.

Seems independent thought doesn't come into it, you just follow from the top. I really don't think ecigs were really on their mind in all this and we have really made it almost the main issue. I'm also against the ban on Snus. I'm not a user but think it is disgusting that you can buy the most dangerous form anywhere in cigarettes but a proven safer form of Snus can't be.

Allnamestaken · 7 Oct 2013 at 19:25

Single Micro Coil - 14 Wraps - 1.4 Ohms with Cotton on the DID.

Crowort · 7 Oct 2013 at 19:28

You are fairly coming along with coils Allnamestaken, so much better looking each time.

Allnamestaken · 7 Oct 2013 at 19:33

Crowort said:
You are fairly coming along with coils Allnamestaken, so much better looking each time.

Thanks bud

Ive just put another cotton wick through that coil

the one in the pic was to thick heheh was being starved of juice at the top its fine now though

smokedog · 7 Oct 2013 at 19:34

Add some Popcorn capella favour into my DIY custard... Yum!

Hamster · 7 Oct 2013 at 19:35

Crowort said:
Seems independent thought doesn't come into it, you just follow from the top. I really don't think ecigs were really on their mind in all this and we have really made it almost the main issue. I'm also against the ban on Snus. I'm not a user but think it is disgusting that you can buy the most dangerous form anywhere in cigarettes but a proven safer form of Snus can't be.

I agree, politicians seem to have little in the way of a conscience. My own MP was one of very few that has spoken out against the MHRA and its practices in the past, yet is now towing the party line on e-cigarettes and is backing MHRA proposals.

In replies that I have read from Labour politicians, they have made their stance on e-cigarettes quite clear. I believe we all need to kick them where it hurts and make it abundantly clear that it's going to affect them in the ballot boxes.

Twirlywoos · 7 Oct 2013 at 19:40

Crowort said:
Seems independent thought doesn't come into it, you just follow from the top. I really don't think ecigs were really on their mind in all this and we have really made it almost the main issue. I'm also against the ban on Snus. I'm not a user but think it is disgusting that you can buy the most dangerous form anywhere in cigarettes but a proven safer form of Snus can't be.

Ban on anything that saves lives. :mad:

scorchisio · 7 Oct 2013 at 19:58

has anyone here got a poldiac? had a nightmare with the magnets today

scorchisio · 7 Oct 2013 at 20:10

i think that kings custard is poor compared to the one and only GVC, grants back and started replying to my emails. happy days

V_R · 7 Oct 2013 at 20:11

Was just about to post about GVC...

****GRANT's VANILLA CUSTARD.COM**** WE SHALL BE RELEASING NEW BATCHES WEEK COMMENCING ON THE 28th/October. I JUST CANNOT ANSWER ANYMORE EMAILS AT THE MOMENT PEOPLE ) WE SHALL BE BACK SHORLTY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE ) My Kind regards Mr Custardo )

scorchisio · 7 Oct 2013 at 20:18

hes probably a millionaire now ive seen his house its amazing lol

Devrij · 7 Oct 2013 at 20:36

Had an email from a lib dem mep promising a vote against restrictive legislation. Fingers crossed lads.

scorchisio · 7 Oct 2013 at 20:51

whats the worst case scenario on this devrij?

Crowort · 7 Oct 2013 at 21:03

scorchisio said:
whats the worst case scenario on this devrij?

Everything we can buy will be banned. That is what med regs basically means. At first I thought everyone was exaggerating but it has been proven over the last few months it really does mean that. Mostly it is around liquid, you'd be left only buying from China for liquid most likely.

scorchisio · 7 Oct 2013 at 21:24

should i start selling all my expensive mods just in case lol

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