Wealth distribution and its inequality in the Uk.

Yes it is more inline as I acknowledged it is however still nowhere near. It also misses the glaringly obvious fact the good doctors emigrate to the states and you are left with someone who can't do their job - which proves nothing other than you pay for quality.

Cuba is going capitalist to speed up development.

I'm amazed it hasn't sooner and has lasted so long, the outside influences were far to overbearing for its system to work as everyone has pointed out. I think its impressive it worked as well as it did for so long (even working as poorly as it did) rather than an example of how it of anything like it could never work because it eventually failed.
 
This is the attitude as well. Cleaning is a worthless job so they should be paid crap for it and be thought as worthless and demeaned doing it. And then they wonder why we have problems.

Where on earth did anyone say cleaning is a worthless job? Cleaning is a very necessary job, the problem is anyone can do it so it will never be a job that will pay well.
 
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Where on earth did anyone say cleaning is a worthless job?

No one has to say it, they dont dare say it, but thats what they think, thats not how things work, come on. Part of the reason is we value things by what they pay.

edit: See where is the logic "Anyone can do it so you shouldnt get paid well". Wouldnt it be better to get good people doing it, by paying a bit more?.
 
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No one has to say it, they dont dare say it, but thats what they think, thats not how things work, come on. Part of the reason is we value things by what they pay.

I certainly don't think it and you certainly don't speak for anyone bar yourself so perhaps you should deal with what is being said instead of trying to feel morally superior about something no one has said.

The logic is that rarer skills pay more and a clean thing can only be so clean. Why would anyone employ someone that isn't good at cleaning as a cleaner?

Also I never said it shouldn't pay well, you did.
 
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Where on earth did anyone say cleaning is a worthless job? Cleaning is a very necessary job, the problem is anyone can do it so it will never be a job that will pay well.
What do cleaners in factories that make processors etc in sterile conditions get paid.
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anyway anyone may be able to clean but how many people are prepared to? it must be a horribly boring job and physically demanding. I bet there are plenty of higher paid jobs anyone could do and gladly would do given the opportunity but friends and family bra


don't the queens staff have ridiculously low wages as well? and I bet they are background checked to hell and back to get the job
 
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I certainly don't think it and you certainly don't speak for anyone bar yourself so perhaps you should deal with what is being said instead of trying to feel morally superior about something no one has said.

The logic is that rarer skills pay more and a clean thing can only be so clean. Why would anyone employ someone that isn't good at cleaning as a cleaner?

Does it look like I was talking about you? Is that why you are taking offence? people do like to deny what they think.

I dont understand why people dont see the value of cleaning, we need clean things. Its a vital component of society. Like Dustmen. These things should be valued.

Because we have plenty of people to do these jobs, and anyone can do them we should pay them as little as possible to do it? That thinking is just bemusing to me. And then we wonder why not many people are willing to do them, nor do them that well.
 
Does it look like I was talking about you? Is that why you are taking offence? people do like to deny what they think.

I dont understand why people dont see the value of cleaning, we need clean things. Its a vital component of society. Like Dustmen. These things should be valued.

Because we have plenty of people to do these jobs, and anyone can do them we should pay them as little as possible to do it? That thinking is just bemusing to me. And then we wonder why not many people are willing to do them, nor do them that well.

yea people would get ill a lot more often without cleaners they are likely one of the more important jobs after sanitation and security
 
Does it look like I was talking about you? Is that why you are taking offence? people do like to deny what they think.

I dont understand why people dont see the value of cleaning, we need clean things. Its a vital component of society. Like Dustmen. These things should be valued.

Because we have plenty of people to do these jobs, and anyone can do them we should pay them as little as possible to do it? That thinking is just bemusing to me. And then we wonder why not many people are willing to do them, nor do them that well.

I already said cleaning is a valuable job, I was a hospital cleaner when I was a student and an aircraft cleaner before that. I just dislike idiots trying tar people with saying something when no such thing has been said. It's a pathetic attempt to try and feel morally superior. It is you that is taking offence by laying blame where there isn't any.

Feel free to make more stuff up and put words in other peoples mouths if it makes your life better. Of course you wasn't talking about me, you weren't talking about anyone as nobody said the things you were going on about and implying people were thinking.
 
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The trouble is things like bankers (for example) wages have reached such a magnitude that most can retire at a relatively young age, which means that there are fewer bankers which just drives up wages further. Those bankers who do continue working with millions in the bank are the type that desire power or have an insatiable appetite for money and end up causing economic collapses.

Capitalism is incredible for growth but lets face it western economies have spiralled out of control, we should have all hit the reset button back in 2008 like Iceland did instead we're keeping things on life support while everyone (apart from the super rich) continues to suffer.
 
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It's funny you mention distribution of wealth when you don't realize how privileged you should be to be born in a first world country with free healthcare and a safety net. Try being born in Somalia or the Congo where you're likely to be kidnapped and fight for other children/deprived people.
 
It's funny you mention distribution of wealth when you don't realize how privileged you should be to be born in a first world country with free healthcare and a safety net. Try being born in Somalia or the Congo where you're likely to be kidnapped and fight for other children/deprived people.

a lot of messed up countries have a lot of wealth from natural resources they just have a disgusting wealth distribution.

anyway it's not our responsibility to fix every country in the world we are responsible for our country as they are for theirs
 
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most messed up countries have a lot of wealth from natural resources

Whose money either goes directly to the corporations or dictators running the countries. It's rare for countries to distribute wealth like that, because the human tendency for greed and selfishness.
 
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