PLANNED - motorists aged under 30 could be banned from giving their friends a lift

Seems like a rubbish idea to me. Young drivers are more of a risk and they pay silly amounts in insurance which puts then off driivng straight away or restricts the car they can purchase.

I would still drive like an idiot if I was 21 and had just passed. When I have folk in the car I probably drive more civilized.
 
Personally I think we should get people driving (under supervision) earlier not later and keep the current age for getting a full license.
 
Sound every similar to the German new driver regulations. Those are absurdly strict, with a probation period of a few years where your point are doubled :eek:

A friend of a friend got 3 points for cycling while over the limit :rolleyes:
 
Not just one person though. Most new drivers get added to their parents insurance and their vars are way better performance than the one litre micrad they learned to drive in

And yes didnt go anywhere near a dual carriageway woth my instructor. Had lessons and passed first time. Thats the point though. I dont think I was ready to drive any car in new environments like motorways and at night when so inexperienced bit I could legally do it. I was on my parents insurance to drive their renault 21 turbo and used to use that to take my mates to the pub.
 
Waste of time.

Put effort into raising the QUALITY of driver learning and testing not the quantity.

Education > Restrictions. Restrictions can be broken, education CAN be ignored but at least you are arming people with the knowledge they need/can use should they wish rather then letting them out in the dark and hoping a restriction helps.

It's shocking how little of a methodology such as Roadcraft is included in basic driving education. No you do not need to include advanced positioning and other techniques but not a single mention of using the limit point or the 'safe stopping rule'?

The most I got was the 2 second rule and usage of controls. Taught to pass the test basically.

It seems driver training is orientated around the fact everyone will drive slowly and not rely on blind luck not to have an accident when it is quite clear people will not/do not. That if you don't break the speed limit everything will be okay.
 
Waste of time.

Put effort into raising the QUALITY of driver learning and testing not the quantity.

Education > Restrictions. Restrictions can be broken, education CAN be ignored but at least you are arming people with the knowledge they need/can use should they wish rather then letting them out in the dark and hoping a restriction helps.

It's shocking how little of a methodology such as Roadcraft is included in basic driving education. No you do not need to include advanced positioning and other techniques but not a single mention of using the limit point or the 'safe stopping rule'?

The most I got was the 2 second rule and usage of controls. Taught to pass the test basically.

It seems driver training is orientated around the fact everyone will drive slowly and not rely on blind luck not to have an accident when it is quite clear people will not/do not. That if you don't break the speed limit everything will be okay.

Thats the point of the test at 18. In reality what they are saying is that all learner drivers will need to learn for 12 months so the earliest you can pass your test is 18. They are also saying that they will need to have 120 hours behind the wheel in different driving conditions while they are learning and have a log book. Bit like a pilots licence I would guess where you have to log 40 hours of flying I beleive?

As much as it will be a pain for anybody then learning to drive, it would indeed vastly improve the experience and driving capabilities of a newly qualified person hence lowering accident rates etc.

Like I said, I had 5 lessons and a few hours with my dad so maybe 9 hours behind the wheel before passing my test. That may be enough to learn enough to pass the test but not enough to make somebody a safe and confident driver.
 
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