Phenom 2 940 to haswell?

steelwolf · 12 Oct 2013 at 23:16

Ive hung on long enough and the time has come, Im just looking for some opinions on if its sensible money wise to go to haswell or would i be just aswell to get a 2600k?

The only reason i want the i7 over the i5 is that i stream to xbox a lot however its a gaming rig.

Also anything i get will be overclocked as high as it can go out of the box on a water loop so is the 2600k the better choice or will a haswell high overclock beat sandybridge these days?

thanks in advance

Oh and Do you think its justifiable to get the i7 for streaming? maybe the i5 would be fine for the amount of money i would save. Obviously with this upgrade i need a new Mb a cpu, ram and i also need a solid state drive, so its going to be a few quid.

kefan77 · 12 Oct 2013 at 23:22

since you need the mobo as well, you should go Haswell, if you had a spare Z77, 2600K would make sense.

overclocking Haswell is a lottery, but it will still beat SB even on lower clocks.

whether to go i5 or i7? depends on the rest of the build and budget.

steelwolf · 12 Oct 2013 at 23:26

kefan77 said:
since you need the mobo as well, you should go Haswell, if you had a spare Z77, 2600K would make sense.

overclocking Haswell is a lottery, but it will still beat SB even on lower clocks.

whether to go i5 or i7? depends on the rest of the build and budget.

Obviously lower is better, My psu and graphics cards are still pretty decent and ive got a few tb worth of hdd already, i just need the ssd for faster windows etc.

At the moment ive got about £440 for motherboard and cpu , I could throw in some more but obviously if i can spend it elsewhere then i will. Im half planning an msi m power board which is about £200 and then i can go for either the i7 or i5. I7 will need more put towards it obvioously and then i still got to get ram and ssd.

ALXAndy · 12 Oct 2013 at 23:26

For streaming? watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE

steelwolf · 12 Oct 2013 at 23:31

ALXAndy said:
For streaming? watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE

Id love to stick with AMD but just seemed liek the only way forward is to go to intel. Ive been amd through and through for years but never hear good things about them these days.

ALXAndy · 12 Oct 2013 at 23:34

steelwolf said:
Id love to stick with AMD but just seemed liek the only way forward is to go to intel. Ive been amd through and through for years but never hear good things about them these days.

Please watch the video. If you're streaming then the 8350 is as good as any I7.

If you want to go Intel? that's fine of course. It's your money and your choice. Just watch the video first.

steelwolf · 13 Oct 2013 at 10:38

ALXAndy said:
Please watch the video. If you're streaming then the 8350 is as good as any I7.

If you want to go Intel? that's fine of course. It's your money and your choice. Just watch the video first.

After watching that the 8350 seems like a better choice but i think ive been brain washed into thinking that intel is now better. Now i dont know what to do . lol

pastymuncher · 13 Oct 2013 at 19:33

Don't spend the money on the 8350, get the 8320 instead. It's £30 cheaper and should clock just as well as the 8350.

steelwolf · 13 Oct 2013 at 19:40

So everyone is in agreement now that a 83xx is better when over clocked than an i7?

kefan77 · 13 Oct 2013 at 19:42

no, but it makes more sense for your build from the performance/cost ratio point of view.

pastymuncher · 13 Oct 2013 at 19:52

No, but bang for buck the FX8320 is a hell of a lot of cpu for the money. £200 for a 8320 and half decent 990FX mobo is good value for money.

ALXAndy · 13 Oct 2013 at 20:17

In streaming the 8320 and 8350 will be around the same as the I7 because of the way streaming works (it's similar to video encoding and will use all cores available to it).

The 8350 seems to perform a little better clock per clock than the 8320 but it's nothing worth spending £30 on IMO. But as others have said, the 8320 is half the price of the I7 and certainly does not perform half way as good (especially not in streaming).

gpuerrilla · 13 Oct 2013 at 20:51

ALXAndy said:
For streaming? watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE

Love the part @ 4m10secs..(to 4m30s) reminds me of this place.

steelwolf · 15 Oct 2013 at 18:16

Im not seeing any mention of the 9370? After looking at that it looks pretty decent. Is there a reason why no one is buying it? Is it a poor overclocker?

kefan77 · 15 Oct 2013 at 18:19

because it's failure.

FX8320 is your best bet out of the FX.

gpuerrilla · 15 Oct 2013 at 18:25

steelwolf said:
..but i think ive been brain washed into thinking that intel is now better.

Quite common these days.

It will change for sure over the next year or two IMO. Intel, nvidia will probably have similar tricks up their sleeve to counter.

almighty15 · 15 Oct 2013 at 18:51

I would not even contemplate recommending AMD over Intel if you have the money for Intel.

People always seem to forget to say that AMD only performs well when all 8 cores are being utilised, if they're not being fully utilised they get hammered by the Intel chips.

And when you factor that the number of software/games that use less then 8 threads far outweighs the software that can use 8 threads it makes little sense to go AMD.

Gaming wise it should be Intel...

Hades · 15 Oct 2013 at 19:01

Here we go again...

almighty15 · 15 Oct 2013 at 19:25

Hades said:
Here we go again...

Say what you will be fact is fact.....

Software that can use 8 threads the FX chips can tie, sometimes slightly edge out the i7's.

Software that uses less then 8 threads the Intel chips come out on top because of superior IPC.

It will slowly get better over time but PS3 has 8 threads and X360 had 6 threads and they didn't magically speed up the rate at which the industry adopted multi threading and the next generation consoles won't speed it up massively either.

For gaming stick with Intel.

kefan77 · 15 Oct 2013 at 19:30

almighty15 said:
Say what you will be fact is fact.....

Software that can use 8 threads the FX chips can tie, sometimes slightly edge out the i7's.

Software that uses less then 8 threads the Intel chips come out on top because of superior IPC.

It will slowly get better over time but PS3 has 8 threads and X360 had 6 threads and they didn't magically speed up the rate at which the industry adopted multi threading and the next generation consoles won't speed it up massively either.

For gaming stick with Intel.

steelwolf said:
The only reason i want the i7 over the i5 is that i stream to xbox a lot however its a gaming rig.