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'Nvidia doesn't need to lower prices to compete with new AMD R7/R9 cards'

I've always opted for AMD, but i've dived into some serious architecture and performance articles and can honestly say that whilst AMD offers 'best bang for the buck', Nvidia appear to offer the best gaming experience.

I'm defining the 'gaming experience' as highest minimum FPS, highest average FPS and other niceties such as PhysX, better drivers and greater game optimisation.

AMD might in some instances have a higher maximum FPS, but the min/max is so severe that it appears like jitter/lag.
 
RedvGreen said:
I've always opted for AMD, but i've dived into some serious architecture and performance articles and can honestly say that whilst AMD offers 'best bang for the buck', Nvidia appear to offer the best gaming experience.

I'm defining the 'gaming experience' as highest minimum FPS, highest average FPS and other niceties such as PhysX, better drivers and greater game optimisation.

AMD might in some instances have a higher maximum FPS, but the min/max is so severe that it appears like jitter/lag.
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I wonder which articles they my be.

PCPer have been very critical about AMDs CF frame time issues but we are talking about Single GPUs.
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-R9-280X-R9-270X-and-R7-260X-Review

Battlefield 4 Beta Performance Preview
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/10/10/battlefield_4_beta_performance_preview/4
 
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RedvGreen said:
I've always opted for AMD, but i've dived into some serious architecture and performance articles and can honestly say that whilst AMD offers 'best bang for the buck', Nvidia appear to offer the best gaming experience.

I'm defining the 'gaming experience' as highest minimum FPS, highest average FPS and other niceties such as PhysX, better drivers and greater game optimisation.

AMD might in some instances have a higher maximum FPS, but the min/max is so severe that it appears like jitter/lag.
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PhysX i can agree with, but there have only been about 20 or so games made with it over the past years, its like one game every now and then.
AMD now have Mantle, the potential of that is massive, we will see how that pans out.

AMD now also have the better drivers than Nvidia, and greater game optimisation as they are now the ones activly working with all the major game developers, CryTek, DICE, every title under EA....

There really is nothing left as justification for Nvidia's prices.
 
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humbug said:
PhysX i can agree with, but there have only been about 20 or so games made with it over the past years, its like one game every now and then.
AMD now have Mantle, the potential of that is massive, we will see how that pans out.

AMD now also have the better drivers and greater game optimisation, better GPU's for less money.
There really is nothing left as justification for Nvidia's prices.
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Not sure about the better drivers or the greater game optimizations but for sure they have the better price. They both run pretty solid for me with no hiccups at all that I have noticed. I can't comment for CF, as I haven't tried it but everything else is pretty smooth.

If I was buying from scratch, I would be jumping on a 280X as of right now GPU's.
 
The choice bewtween nvidia/AMD is a lot easier for me as I'm a Linux gamer. For whatever reason AMD simply don't seem to be particularly interested in their Linux drivers, I have first hand experience of their buggyness.

Which leaves me in the green camp and their inflated prices...
 
Jono8 said:
Blimey. I know it mentions about the perceived smoothness of the 770 not being that great in that review but wow, the 770 absolutely stomps the R9 280x in those benches in terms of framerate :eek:
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It does not matter when even without frame times the experiences difference is noticeably worse.

I have several system all running 2500K/2600Ks all OC @ 4.4Ghz, identical 16gb 1600Mhz ram kits, identical 250Gg SSDs, identical motherboards. But all with different GPU configurations. Here are my finding using both AMD/Nvidia Beta and offical release GPU drivers.

Testing on a locked server running Conquest gamemode on Siege of Shangehai using repeated paths and actions for 5 minute around the map.

Findings:
AMD systems:
System 1: AMD HD6950, avg 30-40FPS Ultra settings, Smooth with only minor FPS drops below 30fps.
System 2: Crossfire HD6950s, avg 60-70 Ultra settings, Smooth with only minor FPS drops below 60fps.
System 3: AMD HD7950, avg 60-70 Ultra settings, Smooth with no lag spikes/shuttering.
System 3: AMD HD7970, avg 70-80 Ultra settings, Smooth with no lag spikes/shuttering.

Nvidia systems:
System 4: GTX 680, avg 40-50 Lowest settings, Frequent shuttering/fps halting randomly with spikes down to <5fps.
System 5: 2way SLI GTX 760, avg 60-70fps Lowest settings, Frequent shuttering/fps halting randomly with spikes down to <5fps.
System 6: GTX770, avg 50-60fps, Lowest settings, Frequent shuttering/fps halting randomly with spikes down to <5fps.

All machines running Window 7, all tested using both official and beta drivers, these are the best results I could get. All Nvidia system could not maintain any kind of enjoyable or playable frame rates using Ultra in game settings.

Nvidia please explain why we have servers full of Nvidia users complaining of these exact same performance issues?
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https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/617851/pc-games/bf4-beta-nvidia-vs-amd-tested/
 
Fair does Greg ^^^

Jono8 said:
Blimey. I know it mentions about the perceived smoothness of the 770 not being that great in that review but wow, the 770 absolutely stomps the R9 280x in those benches in terms of framerate :eek:
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Its early days in a BETA, i have not doubt AMD's performance difference and Nvidia's smoothness issues will get sorted in this 2 week period before release where everyone will be working to get everything right after the data they all collected from the BETA.
 
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Boomstick777 said:
Have seen a few 780's down to £450, so prices must be coming down. Nvidia probably want to appear to have faith in their hardware on the PR side while slowly reducing prices anyway :p
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Un changed, a more favourable exchange rate hits big expensive things harder, etailors lowering margin a little can easily see £50 off.

We did some buying last week with a 1.62 rate, that makes a $500 far cheaper than it was buying at 1.55 a few weeks earlier.

The rate will unfortunately go against us soon as USD will strengthen again due to US parliament sorting themselves out.
 
Gibbo said:
Un changed, a more favourable exchange rate hits big expensive things harder, etailors lowering margin a little can easily see £50 off.

We did some buying last week with a 1.62 rate, that makes a $500 far cheaper than it was buying at 1.55 a few weeks earlier.

The rate will unfortunately go against us soon as USD will strengthen again due to US parliament sorting themselves out.
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Why do I imagine hearing you shouting ' BUY BUY BUY BUY!!!!' at procurement today?

lol

:p
 
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