On Benefits & Proud

Dolph · 19 Oct 2013 at 18:31

Biohazard said:
Provide counter-evidence, and if you like we can debate any bias between the two then at the same time.

You also said a living wage would become a defacto NMW; so the same economics would apply as well.

The same economics wouldn't apply if you raise it without applying the same logic. I know critical thinking isn't a strong point of yours but really...

In fact, finding anything for the uk will be problematic as the proposal has never been tried. Would studies from europe suffice?

Biohazard · 19 Oct 2013 at 18:35

Dolph said:
The same economics wouldn't apply if you raise it without applying the same logic. I know critical thinking isn't a strong point of yours but really...

In fact, finding anything for the uk will be problematic as the proposal has never been tried. Would studies from europe suffice?

Applying what logic dolph? It's hard for me to critically analyse something if I don't know what you're talking about.

Minimum wage increasing costs, or being passed to the consumer was the subject.

estebanrey · 19 Oct 2013 at 18:36

Tokenbrit said:
How much more unemployment? Lets have a number.

154,689

Dolph · 19 Oct 2013 at 18:41

Biohazard said:
Applying what logic dolph? It's hard for me to critically analyse something if I don't know what you're talking about.

Minimum wage increasing costs, or being passed to the consumer was the subject.

And raising the minimum wage while bypassing all the currrent rules and logic used was your proposal.

You cannot justify your proposed action by referencing past experiences, because the past experiences used a completely different approach.

Biohazard · 19 Oct 2013 at 19:07

Dolph said:
And raising the minimum wage while bypassing all the currrent rules and logic used was your proposal.

Where did I propose that?

Dolph said:
You cannot justify your proposed action by referencing past experiences, because the past experiences used a completely different approach.

Right okay, but I still want to know how NMW was passed on directly to consumers and how tax haven's aren't tax haven's.

dirtychinchilla · 19 Oct 2013 at 20:31

There's an episode up here.

SPG · 19 Oct 2013 at 20:59

Should be law that if have not worked for 2 years, then your not allowed to breed. Also if you have 2 kids only the state will aid the first one. (unless you have twins, etc)

Oh and to get there social money, they need to take a drugs test. Test positive and no money for you SCUMBAG.

There scumbags, give nothing to society apart from taking. The women with 11 kids needs sterilizing. OR dropping off in the middle of the ocean and have to swim back.

dirtychinchilla · 19 Oct 2013 at 21:04

I don't know if you were joking, but it's just not acceptable to control people to the extent that you're suggesting.

arknor · 19 Oct 2013 at 21:09

SPG said:
Should be law that if have not worked for 2 years, then your not allowed to breed. Also if you have 2 kids only the state will aid the first one. (unless you have twins, etc)

Oh and to get there social money, they need to take a drugs test. Test positive and no money for you SCUMBAG.

There scumbags, give nothing to society apart from taking. The women with 11 kids needs sterilizing. OR dropping off in the middle of the ocean and have to swim back.

why don't we just sterilise anyone at birth who's parent's don't have over £100,000 savings ? or a combined income of at least £50,000

immigration won't matter because we will need them to do the jobs we don't want to.

Scotty123 · 19 Oct 2013 at 21:12

Curious in a way to watch this, but I can imagine it being horrendous. I've read bad things about it on twitter.

mmj_uk · 19 Oct 2013 at 21:40

SPG said:
Should be law that if have not worked for 2 years, then your not allowed to breed. Also if you have 2 kids only the state will aid the first one. (unless you have twins, etc)

Oh and to get there social money, they need to take a drugs test. Test positive and no money for you SCUMBAG.

There scumbags, give nothing to society apart from taking. The women with 11 kids needs sterilizing. OR dropping off in the middle of the ocean and have to swim back.

Don't you have an underground Nazi party conference to attend?

dannywaugh1 · 19 Oct 2013 at 22:54

Iv been banned from watching this after the f and c word had been used many many times!

Nikumba · 19 Oct 2013 at 23:01

Saw some trailers for this and though no not going to watch, as would spend an hour shouting at the TV like a crazy person lol

spankingtexan · 20 Oct 2013 at 05:42

mmj_uk said:
That's what it's designed to do, don't be so gullible. 99% of claimants are struggling and lots of people are having to resort to food banks due to draconian sanctions, this is all brought about by the 'lets punish all benefits claimants cos they're all scum' mentality that this government have cultivated with help from the media.

Totally agree, there's a few on here with the same mentality.

arknor · 20 Oct 2013 at 09:58

smoove said:
Don't drug addicts claim sick not dole?

do alcoholics still get an extra £10 or whatever it was

loads of methadone druggies go to my local chemist lol, you know when it's fix day from the police car being parked outside....

C64 · 20 Oct 2013 at 10:36

You guys still have not grasped that vast numbers of working people are getting more benefit than the average unemployed person.

All you want to see is the single mum with 20 kids daily mail scenario.

arknor · 20 Oct 2013 at 10:59

C64 said:
You guys still have not grasped that vast numbers of working people are getting more benefit than the average unemployed person.

All you want to see is the single mum with 20 kids daily mail scenario.

yea last time we had this discussion people weren't aware people working may be entitled to housing benefit , working tax credits etc

which is where the "better to be on the dole than minimum wage" comes from

LeeUK · 20 Oct 2013 at 13:16

I was out of work for a couple of months once and I certainly did not live a life of luxury on benefits. If I hadn't found a new job when I did, I would have been so close to going under.

spankingtexan · 20 Oct 2013 at 15:50

LeeUK said:
I was out of work for a couple of months once and I certainly did not live a life of luxury on benefits. If I hadn't found a new job when I did, I would have been so close to going under.

I know what you mean. I was signing on and had a bedsit with a mattress on the floor and a borrowed radio cassette player for entertainment, I was picking mould out of bread and toasting it while scraping the butter tub.
They were hard times, no food banks either. Many a time I would literally feel weak from lack of food as I walked everywhere. One night, I was on my way home with nothing in the house and no cash when I found a tenner, oh boy, did I have a feast that night lol.