Does the PS4 & Xbox one have a HDMI 2.0 or displayPort output for 4k TV support at 60Hz/60fps

neoglow · 20 Oct 2013 at 14:11

To answer the thread title....No.

Im pretty sure Hz and FPS are two different things so no, HDMI 1.4 isnt limited to 30 FPS.

By the looks of games coming out, the consoles are struggling to output native 1920x1080p res games as it is so 4K is probably PS5 or 6 and Xbox Two or Three specs Id guess.

Are PC monitors even capable of 4k yet?

I keep forgetting how outdated consoles are compared to PC's..

Oh dear.

chaparral · 20 Oct 2013 at 14:21

neoglow said:
Im pretty sure Hz and FPS are two different things so no, HDMI 1.4 isnt limited to 30 FPS..

Yes they are different things,but they tie into each other..

(IE it no good using 30hz with 60fps as that would give you bad screen tearing..

)

Psycho Sonny · 20 Oct 2013 at 22:37

chaparral said:
You no remember how quickly the market changed from 720p to 1080p ...
That ebay link was just an example...

Being from the Channel islands I don't really know the normal onlines places you mainland guys would buy your TV's from..

John Lewis;

Price Matches other sites and stores

Free 5 year warranty with every tv

Best customer service around

anyway like i said above, no chance 4k is going mainstream anytime soon.

james.miller · 20 Oct 2013 at 22:52

chaparral said:
You no remember how quickly the market changed from 720p to 1080p ...

The first 1080p tv's appeared around '98-'99. Bluray (and hd-dvd though short-lived) were really the catalysts for 1080p content. the ps3, the first 'affordable' bluray player, was released in 2005. mass produced 1080p sets at that time were still scarce. I bought my first 1080p tv in 2007 i think, the sony 40w200 for just shy of £1700. ouch.

So how long did it take for 1080p to take hold, then?

Psycho Sonny · 20 Oct 2013 at 22:58

1080p hasn't even made it onto tv broadcasts, they are 1080i maximum atm.

most ps3 games also aren't even native 1080p.

i wouldn't exactly say it has filtered through to the whole market yet.

james.miller · 20 Oct 2013 at 23:02

ps3 games might not be 1080p, but the games i play on my samsung galaxy s4 are.... Its funny how technology progresses

HAz · 20 Oct 2013 at 23:12

Lol such a pc fan boy

Psypher5 · 20 Oct 2013 at 23:14

james.miller said:
ps3 games might not be 1080p, but the games i play on my samsung galaxy s4 are.... Its funny how technology progresses

... :/

Shamikebab · 20 Oct 2013 at 23:15

Yeah I don't even know where to start with that post...

Psypher5 · 20 Oct 2013 at 23:16

I just..

How can he even...

SERIOUSLY?!

james.miller · 20 Oct 2013 at 23:17

Shamikebab said:
Yeah I don't even know where to start with that post...

there's nothing at all wrong with it. its a 1080p display and most software runs at native resolution. of course it isnt at the same level of texture detail or geometric complexity but then that was never the point, was it?

Crezzlin · 20 Oct 2013 at 23:19

james.miller said:
These consoles are in many ways more advanced than the pc's we are using today.

Not sure why any sensible person will call them outdated.

I concur

Crezzlin · 20 Oct 2013 at 23:24

neoglow said:
Are PC monitors even capable of 4k yet?

Oh dear.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-058-AS&groupid=17&catid=1120

Shamikebab · 20 Oct 2013 at 23:37

james.miller said:
there's nothing at all wrong with it. its a 1080p display and most software runs at native resolution. of course it isnt at the same level of texture detail or geometric complexity but then that was never the point, was it?

Cool story, I'm just off to do some 1080p Excel action.

james.miller · 20 Oct 2013 at 23:41

Shamikebab said:
Cool story, I'm just off to do some 1080p Excel action.

...so really you have no point then.

Glad we cleared than one up.

Shamikebab · 20 Oct 2013 at 23:43

The point was that your initial point was stupid

james.miller · 20 Oct 2013 at 23:54

It's perfectly valid.

Psycho Sonny said:
1080p hasn't even made it onto tv broadcasts, they are 1080i maximum atm.

most ps3 games also aren't even native 1080p.

i wouldn't exactly say it has filtered through to the whole market yet.

Talking about ps3 games not being 1080p in this context is somewhat pointless when more 1080p games are available on other hardware platforms. Even my phone...

I know this is the console forum but i still expected people to understand that.

Shamikebab · 21 Oct 2013 at 00:05

There is a wild difference between something being capable of doing 1080p and something doing 1080p. Of course the current gen console can do 1080p, it's just not a priority compared to using the power elsewhere. Bring your phone up...just really makes it look like you don't know what you're talking about.

Psycho Sonny · 21 Oct 2013 at 00:09

Anyway if OP is hoping to play 4k games on the ps4 then good luck with that, they are aiming for 1080p native, which is nowhere near 4k

james.miller · 21 Oct 2013 at 00:20

Shamikebab said:
There is a wild difference between something being capable of doing 1080p and something doing 1080p. Of course the current gen console can do 1080p, it's just not a priority compared to using the power elsewhere.

YES, so, (most) ps3 games not being 1080p is not a good point to make. Looks like you agree then.

Bring your phone up...just really makes it look like you don't know what you're talking about.

No, it just means I've failed to explain it in manor simple enough for you to comprehend. Hands up - entirely my fault.

Psycho Sonny said:
Anyway if OP is hoping to play 4k games on the ps4 then good luck with that, they are aiming for 1080p native, which is nowhere near 4k

4k is a bit of a no-mans land on the ps4 isnt it (and xbox one i guess). the optical media doesnt support it. There is next to no 4k video content out there than isnt a demo or trailer and the consoles arent near good enough to make 4k the standard for gaming.

...Not that it's going to matter for the next 5 years at least lol. Even then, 4k is well in to the realms of diminishing returns. It certainly works for monitors but I'm having a hard time understanding why I need 4k support for any average living room setup. The average viewing distance is far beyond what would be required to make 4k worthwhile on anything under a 100" display.