Hospital Care

I was in for 4 days with a major flare of Ulcerative Colitis, there was vending machines for everything you need, the TV & internet access was free, wifi was free, the ward was immaculate and the staff wonderful.

I took them a small hamper the day after release it really was a good experience, apart from the UC :)
 
glen8 said:
I would expect it, absolutely!
You have to pay for the TV!
You are on a ward with other people, seriously! How degrading

He has been living in the US for a few years, so obviously he was a bit shocked with how our NHS is run.

anyway, back on topic. Yeah, I expect a standard level of care with my Tax money thanks. If I forget my toothbrush, or family forget, then I expect to be provided with one.
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wow!! Go private then? Hospital wards are very traditional actually think of the okd nightingale wards. Why should you expect to be provided with stuff that well if you have forgot you can get someone to go to the shop for you. Its half the issue with the NHS everyone one expects everything for free then complains when its not the highest quality. We are a hospital not a hotel. US healthcare is privately paid so yes they are going to have siderooms and a little more modern but they still have to provide their own toiletries.
 
Mrs Seabiscuit said:
I just don't feel you should expect anything like that, you pay for toiletries at home so whats the issue with either getting someone to bring them in or if its elective bringing them in yourself.
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I best not tell you I got bacon\sos\egg\fresh toms\2 toast for brekkie you may flip..oh look I did :D

I bet you buy the top stuff "Because your worth it" :D

Have you been to the new super hospital in brum?
 
I (nurse myself) agree with Mrs Seabiscuit.

As she is saying, why should a hospital provide basic toiletries such as toothpaste, toothbrush, shampoo etc to those who are staying for a while?

As people point out, an NHS hospital ISN'T like a 5* hotel (and nor should it be), you would take your own toiletries to a Travelodge, why not to a hospital?
 
deuse said:
I best not tell you I got bacon\sos\egg\fresh toms\2 toast for brekkie you may flip..oh look I did :D

I bet you buy the top stuff "Because your worth it" :D

Have you been to the new super hospital in brum?
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Yes I have been to the new QE and your point is?
Our patients can order full english if they wish provided their not on heart wards, that its not a problem. You are missing my point entirely. Maybe this makes more sense to you? --->

AmyS said:
I (nurse myself) agree with Mrs Seabiscuit.

As she is saying, why should a hospital provide basic toiletries such as toothpaste, toothbrush, shampoo etc to those who are staying for a while?

As people point out, an NHS hospital ISN'T like a 5* hotel (and nor should it be), you would take your own toiletries to a Travelodge, why not to a hospital?
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My point exactly thanks Amy. :)
 
Mrs Seabiscuit said:
Its half the issue with the NHS everyone one expects everything for free
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The NHS is paid for through taxes. Perhaps I have higher expectations?

I want the NHS to be fantastic....no...the NHS SHOULD be fantastic! Why can't we get certains drugs on the NHS? There are cancer drugs available in the USA, but not here as they are too expensive.
Sounds like a great health care system to me....NOT. I think the front line staff are getting a very raw deal. The government should be ashamed!
 
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AmyS said:
I (nurse myself) agree with Mrs Seabiscuit.

As she is saying, why should a hospital provide basic toiletries such as toothpaste, toothbrush, shampoo etc to those who are staying for a while?

As people point out, an NHS hospital ISN'T like a 5* hotel (and nor should it be), you would take your own toiletries to a Travelodge, why not to a hospital?
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For the amount of money we pay for the NHS we should get all that. love my hospital and the nurses
I have a nurse come every other day to my place and she is awesome. I think the NHS is overcharged for everything they buy
and could save a load by going else were
 
Presumably the flannels you must provide are for washing the face/torso not a whole bed bath?

I have this image of people using the TV support arms as improvised washing lines to dry their soiled flannels :/
 
glen8 said:
The NHS is paid for through taxes. Perhaps I have higher expectations?

I want the NHS to be fantastic....no...the NHS SHOULD be fantastic! Why can't we get certains drugs on the NHS? There are cancer drugs available in the USA, but not here as they are too expensive.
Sounds like a great health care system to me....NOT. I think the front line staff are getting a very raw deal. The government should be ashamed!
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Whilst I see youre point dude I am on about soap and flannels and such like. :D:D

deuse said:
For the amount of money we pay for the NHS we should get all that. love my hospital and the nurses
I have a nurse come every other day to my place and she is awesome. I think the NHS is overcharged for everything they buy
and could save a load by going else were
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You come across as pretentious.

Fourstar said:
Presumably the flannels you must provide are for washing the face/torso not a whole bed bath?

I have this image of people using the TV support arms as improvised washing lines to dry their soiled flannels :/
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Lol yes I do mean for thir face and hands we use disposable on their bums. Though at home may I add do you have a separate bum cloth?
 
To be honest, if a person has to stay in hospital & can't leave I'd expect the hospital to provide for all their needs (as they are in their care) - that includes drinks & cleaning products on a reasonable standard.

The NHS isn't free, it's something we all pay for.

Now, I do appreciate to ensure these responsibilities are met it would need more funding, which I believe should be paid for with an appropriate tax increase. (assuming the money can't be got elsewhere by examining/changing existing contracts where they public sector is getting financially screwed by contractors/private companies - which in my experience happens allot in the public sector).
 
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elmarko said:
To be honest, if a person has to stay in hospital & can't leave I'd expect the hospital to provide for all their needs (as they are in their care) - that includes drinks & cleaning products on a reasonable standard..
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In my op i specifically said I was talking about people who have visitors everyday. I realise If a patient in as emergency and has no visitors or money with them then there's not a lot they can do about it. My point is some people have multiple visitors everyday and none of them bring even basic soap and flannel in which I think is terrible.
 
Mrs Seabiscuit said:
In my op i specifically said I was talking about people who have visitors everyday. I realise If a patient in as emergency and has no visitors or money with them then there's not a lot they can do about it. My point is some people have multiple visitors everyday and none of them bring even basic soap and flannel in which I think is terrible.
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Either way, I don't really think people should have to.

Family members going into hospital is a stressful experience for all involved, neither the patient or the family should be expected to provide what is pretty much basic stuff.

Now, if they were asking for eye-liner or premium brand hair products I'd understand - but aside from a lack of funding (which is an issue) I don't see any good reasons as to why the hospital should't provide the basics (which includes a simple TV tbh).

I'd love to see a study to see how much money is generated/saved by not providing these services - against the increase in stress related illness/treatment rejection which would in part arise from the overall poorer conditions which the patient has to endure as a result of them.
 
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I never really thought about it but it's a good point, and good to raise this information.

I've been lucky enough not to have to experience that.
 
elmarko said:
Either way, I don't really think people should have to.

Family members going into hospital is a stressful experience for all involved, neither the patient or the family should be expected to provide what is pretty much basic stuff.

Now, if they were asking for eye-liner or premium brand hair products I'd understand - but aside from a lack of funding (which is an issue) I don't see any good reasons as to why the hospital should't provide the basics (which includes a simple TV tbh).

I'd love to see a study to see how much money is generated/saved by not providing these services - against the increase in stress related illness/treatment rejection which would in part arise from the overall poorer conditions which the patient has to ensure as a result of them.
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You think everything should be free? as I and a few others have said its a hospital for medical treatment not a hotel.
 
JBuk said:
Inform each patient or next of kin what they will need upon admittance to the ward

Problem solved
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Problem is, they may not get admitted to a ward directly.

They could go through A&E or MAU and not be expecting to stay the night. Plus, you could get transferred from one ward to another due to the nature of the issue / lack of beds, so you're relying on the message getting conveyed by someone along the way.

What's to say if you're the nurse on Ward 2, that you haven't already assumed that Ward 1 have told the patient / relative that they need to bring their own toothbrush ;)
 
Would you rather the NHS spent its limited pot of money on healthcare or toiletries for everyone. It's a no brainier to me. By all means provide basics to emergency admissions but elective admissions should have the foresight to come prepared.
 
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