Hospital Care

[danielanthony]

Source? I'd be interested to have a look at those figures

- GP

Google 'UK Population' for that figure.

This Guardian article sums up the HMRC figures: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/mar/20/budget-2013-40pc-higher-tax-bracket

 

[Minstadave]

For infection control purposes, I wouldn't like people to be bringing in their own toiletries. I also think when someone is critically ill, or just ill in general its the last thing on their mind.

Infection control? Any logic behind that or is this just the general nonsense that gets spewed out by specialist nurses that don't do real work.

 

[tlrBeta]

Let's rather sort out the 1 nurse to 24 patients on a night shift, then I'll be interested on fixing minor issues

 

[Deleted member 651465]

For infection control purposes, I wouldn't like people to be bringing in their own toiletries. I also think when someone is critically ill, or just ill in general its the last thing on their mind.

You mean the patient admitted for the stroke hasn't forgotten he can only wash his hair with Timotei?

Personally, I feel the basics should be provided (like a travelodge), but certainly no named brands. I would take my own, or ask a relative, given the option.

 

[Hagar]

I was taken in for septic arthritis and a few other add ons recently. I was admitted through the out of hours GP and spent the first night on observation. The next day I was taken on to a ward and my overnight bag was brought in by my wife. This included everything I would take if I was staying away a few nights through work or other reason.

Absolutely I would expect to bring in some home comforts including toiletries, books etc. if I had visitors and was able to move about a little to shower etc.

 

[deuse]

Infection control? Any logic behind that or is this just the general nonsense that gets spewed out by specialist nurses that don't do real work.

I caught MRSA on the ward and the admins there tried to blame something I brought in and that it touched my open wound.

In other words the hospital pooed up and trying to blame it on anything they can think of before it goes to court.

So if you have a open wound don't use your own things use theirs

 

[Hagar]

I caught MRSA on the ward and the admins there tried to blame something I brought in and that it touched my open wound.

In other words the hospital pooed up and trying to blame it on anything they can think of before it goes to court.

So if you have a open wound don't use your own things use theirs

I would have thought that you would need to prove what did cause it to successfully sue. Did others on the same ward get it at the same time?

Anyway I am sure that taking a few toiletries into hospital is not a major infection threat and the sensible thing to do with flannels is to buy a new one for your stay.

 

[grumpysculler]

It should depend on the circumstances.

When my wife was in the postnatal ward, we took a full washbag and when my dad was admitted as an inpatient he took one too (emergency admission).

When my dad is next in hospital, I expect the hospital to provide everything like that - he will be in isolation with no immune system at all and keeping things sterile will be rather important!

I caught MRSA on the ward and the admins there tried to blame something I brought in and that it touched my open wound

Usually that is what happens - you or one of your visitors brings the infection in. Just because you caught it in hospital, doesn't mean the hospital caused it.

 

[deuse]

I would have thought that you would need to prove what did cause it to successfully sue. Did others on the same ward get it at the same time.

That's the easy part. As you would know you have to have a pre-op and they test you for MRSA and other things
then on the day of your op they take blood work again and test again. Both was clear of MRSA for me

But I caught something much worse then that..but don't want to talk about it.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

I'm not defending no one. As I said a lot of hospitals used to give out stuff(ours still do) so I would expect it all the time.

Saw this thread earlier so asked two people I know who have very recently had family members in the QE and they had to take their own toiletries so what ward was you in that they give it for free?

Why can't we get certains drugs on the NHS? There are cancer drugs available in the USA, but not here as they are too expensive.

I'm going to let you think about you wrote but give you a massive clue about where the money comes from to pay for the drugs - USA.

I would have thought that you would need to prove what did cause it to successfully sue.

I have over 600 open claims at the moment and 100s that are closed and not one is for a Hospital Acquired Infection.

 

[kindai]

Heh, when a family member was admitted, the first thing id do is go collect the toileteries... just seems... logical?

 

[Mrs Seabiscuit]

Heh, when a family member was admitted, the first thing id do is go collect the toileteries... just seems... logical?

precisely

 

[bsoltan]

Having never been admitted to hospital and only visiting one once I wouldn't know what to expect or take with me. Are patients (other than emergency ones) advised on what a hospital does/doesn't provide?

 

[anything I don't mind]

In the private sector hospitals are like hotels and treat the patients like customers. You get your own room with bathroom and you get basic things like soap included in the price.

In the NHS you are treated like you should be grateful to be there and that you don't deserve a bed. The nurses have nothing but contempt for the patients, probably because they lack job satisfaction and take it out on the patients. There is nothing included in the visit apart from the bed, which is in a room with 6-10 other patients, the bathroom is a shared bathroom for the entire floor. Food is quite atrocious and worse than airplane food. They did have a kitchen but patients can't use that without much difficulty. The kitchen is more for the staff and visitors to eat than the patients, evident by the fact that its on the ground floor by the visitors entrance. I had to walk down there to get some orange juice, even then the selection was poor and no fresh orange juice, just processed from concentrate low quality stuff. The water they supply is tap water.

 

[Mrs Seabiscuit]

Most nurses are lovely its only a rare few who are not so nice. Also the sheer amount of paperwork they have to complete is insane if they dont do it they can be taken to court. But most nurses are great but they are all damned if they do and damned if they don't.

 

[godinman]

To be honest, I think that basic toiletries should be provided, some 2 in 1, a roll on and toothpaste and toothbrush and a flannel is all that's really needed. I don't know why they wouldn't be provided, just some basic no brand stuff to keep people clean while in the care of hospital staff.

 

[Mrs Seabiscuit]

Yes they are provided. My point is why should it be assumed you get that.

 

[godinman]

Well, as it is provided then it may safely be assumed that it is provided, surely?

Other than that, surely it may be assumed that while in the care of a hospital they would provide basic sanitary provisions?

Answer me this, why should it be assumed that it wouldn't be provided? Should I bring my own sheets too? Bed?

 

[platypus]

Most nurses are lovely its only a rare few who are not so nice.

How exactly would you quantify, or indeed prove, that statement?

 

[G|mp]

What about the people admitted to hospital who don't have any friends or family to grab their things for them.

I think it's a bit harsh to look down on people that think these would be provided anyway, basic things that should be provided in my opinion if you're expected to stay in overnight.