Texas Law Makes Sense?!?!?!?

So if you had it your way, if you see a guy breaking into a window, he is "outside of the law", which in turn allows you to kill or physically harm this person?

The person could have lost their own keys, or be helping someone inside. This is part of the reason why we have courts, and a justice system is so we can determine who has actually committed a crime. It allows us to gather information and look at all the facts. Everyone should be allowed their day in court, without it a lot of innocent people would become injured or killed by vigilante mobs.

Ah another ignorant GD forum warrior.

Read the posts, you may learn more, as in the rest of life be informed and you won't make a *** of yourself ;)
 
So if you had it your way, if you see a guy breaking into a window, he is "outside of the law", which in turn allows you to kill or physically harm this person?

The person could have lost their own keys, or be helping someone inside. This is part of the reason why we have courts, and a justice system is so we can determine who has actually committed a crime. It allows us to gather information and look at all the facts. Everyone should be allowed their day in court, without it a lot of innocent people would become injured or killed by vigilante mobs.

Yup, however in this country if someone has broken into your house you're allowed to use reasonable force, so basically unless he's swinging for you don't touch him. Which is how it should be.
 
Yup, however in this country if someone has broken into your house you're allowed to use reasonable force, so basically unless he's swinging for you don't touch him. Which is how it should be.

I would respond but by your previous posts I can guess this will be a waste of time.

In these circumstances I wish you could experience if yourself its easy to label someone as a bad person when its bit happening to you. Though I am sure you would sit back and allow your child to be raped and your house to be pillaged. In fact I'm sure your family and the wider community would venerate you for such actions, you would be a true outstanding pillar of society and get a badge to prove this along with a target on your forehead as a mug to he exploited.
 
That's such BS, such a nanny state we live in.

Well, it's for a judge/jury to decide what is reasonable force. However no justice is served via death.

e; I would never sit back and let my child be raped, no sain person would however I don't believe justice is served via death, as long as he's away from the child and you stand in between them there's no chance for him to touch her. And you would restrain him. However it's silly for everyone + me in this thread "I'd do this" because frankly nobody knows what they'd do.

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Hyburnate- your young enough to fall victim to a sexual attack, i wonder if it was to happen to you and some guy ran over and accidentally killed your attacker. would you care so much then? i think not.
There's no age barrier on sexual attack, everyone can be sexually assaulted there are different age ranges, which I believe are <13, 13-16, 16+. The punishment differs (well, not so much so, the maximum by law is life for every sexual assault). Personally, actually I think I'd feel subsequently responsible for the attackers death because without me being there he wouldn't have died. But again nobody can say how they would react to such a thing.
 
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The father would not have been able to control himself, this i can guarantee, hence the offender dying.

Hyburnate- your young enough to fall victim to a sexual attack, i wonder if it was to happen to you and some guy ran over and accidentally killed your attacker. would you care so much then? i think not.

In an ideal world the offender wouldn't have died, hell in an ideal world it would not have happened, but this isn't an ideal world we live in, it's a cruel, sick dangerous place, one i feel many of the younger posters have no experience of.

It's unfortunate that the guy died, but that's life, the offender took a risk, he lost.
 
Well, it's for a judge/jury to decide what is reasonable force. However no justice is served via death.

e; I would never sit back and let my child be raped, no sain person would however I don't believe justice is served via death, as long as he's away from the child and you stand in between them there's no chance for him to touch her. And you would restrain him. However it's silly for everyone + me in this thread "I'd do this" because frankly nobody knows what they'd do.

I'm sure you would. I'm sure you would calmly stand there holding him back from a raped child saying something along the lines of "you knave, the British justice shall see to you and you sell never trouble society again. At the same time justice will clearly show my 5 year old child that being raped doesn't matter and justice has been served"

If that's the case you are a saint, but I'm calling niave hypocrite.
 
I'm sure you would. I'm sure you would calmly stand there holding him back from a raped child saying something along the lines of "you knave, the British justice shall see to you and you sell never trouble society again. At the same time justice will clearly show my 5 year old child that being raped doesn't matter and justice has been served"

If that's the case you are a saint, but I'm calling niave hypocrite.

There was a traffic cops episode (I believe it was this series) in which one copper had his best mate (also a copper) knocked unconscious, he made a fist however he refrained from hitting him (which took some bloody balls), he didn't know if his best mate had just been killed so don't claim that everybody would go ape **** and kill. The officer in question knew that justice would be served and nothing other than him being prosecuted would come of him hitting him.
 
isnt this exactly ehat would happen here? he used force to defend a person, asd soo nas the man was unco0ncious and not a threat he phoned the emergency services for help. he did not intend to kill the man he even said to the 911 operator.

”Come on! This guy is going to die on me! I don’t know what to do.” he yelled.

this isn't really unique to Texas.
 
isnt this exactly ehat would happen here? he used force to defend a person, asd soo nas the man was unco0ncious and not a threat he phoned the emergency services for help. he did not intend to kill the man he even said to the 911 operator.



this isn't really unique to Texas.

Yeah my point was that if he killed him deliberately (which in this case it looks like he didn't) then he deserves to be prosecuted in my eyes however that's not how Texas' justice system works.
 
There was a traffic cops episode (I believe it was this series) in which one copper had his best mate (also a copper) knocked unconscious, he made a fist however he refrained from hitting him (which took some bloody balls), he didn't know if his best mate had just been killed so don't claim that everybody would go ape **** and kill. The officer in question knew that justice would be served and nothing other than him being prosecuted would come of him hitting him.

There is a world of difference between copper slugged in the line of duty and 5 year old raped and father catches him in the act.

With each post I'm thinking more niavite as opposed to bleeding heart liberal. Life will teach you, hopefully not the hard way it did this bloke.
 
Ah another ignorant GD forum warrior.

Read the posts, you may learn more, as in the rest of life be informed and you won't make a *** of yourself ;)

Forum warrior?

I've read the entire thread, your sweeping statement supporting vigilantism is still there, so I responded.

Yup, however in this country if someone has broken into your house you're allowed to use reasonable force, so basically unless he's swinging for you don't touch him.

I would simply argue that when someone breaks into your house, usually with a tool/weapon they aren't there for peaceful intentions, so some use of force is lawful.
 
Very good decision. What a horrific thing to see as a father :(. I don't blame him flying off the handle and beating the molester to death. I guess the call to 911 shows it was a genuine furious reaction

"he called 911 to report on the incident. ”Come on! This guy is going to die on me! I don’t know what to do.” he yelled."
 
Forum warrior?

I've read the entire thread, your sweeping statement supporting vigilantism is still there, so I responded.



I would simply argue that when someone breaks into your house, usually with a tool/weapon they aren't there for peaceful intentions, so some use of force is lawful.

Yup, I agree :) However personally I wouldn't have the balls to hit them, I'd let them go mainly because if I injured them severely I'd never forgive myself.
 
Of course there should be degrees within this, but if someone acts outside the law/evilly why in any sane world should the law then stand up for them

Forum warrior?

I've read the entire thread, your sweeping statement supporting vigilantism is still there, so I responded.

Forum warrior.

I clearly stated there should be degrees, so either you didn't read and you were busy riding to the rescue on your white steed (forum warrioring) or you read it and are you are too plain stupid to apply a statement to a fact.

Take your pick, I'm easy.
 
Good call. I know I will sound right wing loony but people who step outside the law shouldn't be protected by the law and people who defend themselves (or others) against these people shouldn't be punished.

You just sound like a loony tbh... and it doesn't really reflect this case - the guy called an ambulance, he didn't step outside the law and nor did Texas seemingly ignore the law either by not charging him. You'd likely be given a lot of leeway in the UK with a case like this.

Your statement however, 'people who step outside the law shouldn't be protected by the law' is retarded.
 
Forum warrior.

Still not sure what you mean by forum warrior. Some vague attempt to insult or dismiss me because you don't have a decent retort?

I clearly stated there should be degrees

Mid course there should be degrees within this, but if someone acts outside the law/evilly why in any sane world should the law then stand up for them?

...Hence my above post. You asked a question, "why [...] should the law then stand up for them?" etc. I answered it.
 
Yes, because killing one person will make the world a better place. Drop in the ocean :rolleyes:

where better off with sick twisted ****s in the world?
that drop in the ocean could have rippled into numerous peoples lives leaving god knows how many families destroyed by his actions
 
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