CPU/Memory question

Mightyashy

Mightyashy

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Sorry if daft question, but im bit baffled as to which is the better option. What would be better for gaming and photoshop work:

Intel 4930K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail
TeamGroup Xtreem LV 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-20800C10 2600MHz Dual/Quad (or similar, Avexir etc)

or

Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail
Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel (or similar, Avexir etc)

Both options overclocked etc.

Cheers :)
 
How much photoshop do you do?

How intence is the type of work you do with it? How big are the files, how many to you have open/working at once?

Even by looking at them i can see theres a MASSIVE price difference between the two.. I feel that the extra money spent WON'T be worth it
 
Doomedspeed said:
How much photoshop do you do?

How intence is the type of work you do with it? How big are the files, how many to you have open/working at once?

Even by looking at them i can see theres a MASSIVE price difference between the two.. I feel that the extra money spent WON'T be worth it
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yeh there is, that's the thing I dont get the difference with quad/dual channel etc so not sure what would see real world difference. I dont benchmark or anything just FPS gaming and lot of photoshop stuff. 300dpi to web, do everything
 
Do you do a lot of those photoshop tasks at the same time though, like multi-tasking, or is it just 'a simple job one day and a big job the next day'...

The main price difference comes from the fact the CPU in the top spec is a Hex core and the bottom is a quad core..aswell as the RAM speed, 2400Mhz is pretty mainstream but 2600mhz-3000mhz is extreme benchmarking realm... The prices rise massively there..

The difference between daul channel and quad channel is negligible as its difined by what CPU you go for as Ivy-E uses Quad channel and Haswell uses daul channel, performance wise the difference is small..(RAM wise)
 
Doomedspeed said:
Do you do a lot of those photoshop tasks at the same time though, like multi-tasking, or is it just 'a simple job one day and a big job the next day'...

The main price difference comes from the fact the CPU in the top spec is a Hex core and the bottom is a quad core..aswell as the RAM speed, 2400Mhz is pretty mainstream but 2600mhz-3000mhz is extreme benchmarking realm... The prices rise massively there..

The difference between daul channel and quad channel is negligible as its difined by what CPU you go for as Ivy-E uses Quad channel and Haswell uses daul channel, performance wise the difference is small..(RAM wise)
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im always working in photoshop so multiple PSDs etc of varying size. im guessing here that I'm not going to see much difference going to quad/hex core am I? if so I think I'll go with the haswell unless anyone can give a reason to go ivy-e?
 
I feel Haswell is the best route, its hyperthread should take care of your multi-tasking pretty well..

What motherboard are you thinking for the 4770k?
 
Thats a healthy budget. :D

Do you want us to do a spec for you?

What requirements do you have?

Do you need a monitor? Do you want to go SLI/Xfire? Are you up to watercooling? COlour scheme? Any case/component prefernces?

:D
 
Doomedspeed said:
Thats a healthy budget. :D

Do you want us to do a spec for you?

What requirements do you have?

Do you need a monitor? Do you want to go SLI/Xfire? Are you up to watercooling? COlour scheme? Any case/component prefernces?

:D
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:D

I've knocked an initial spec up, its changed several times haha! Its for gaming at 1080p and above (looking at getting bigger monitors at some point) and lot of Photoshop/design work with the odd film/TV viewing thrown in for good measure.

One ive thought about is something like:

Intel Core i7-4770K
Asus Z87 MAXIMUS VI FORMULA Intel Z87
Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" 16GB 2400MHz Dual Channel
Corsair Obsidian 750D
2 x MSI GeForce GTX 780 Lightning
2 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO in RAID 0
2 x Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb
Corsair RM Series RM 1000 '80+ Gold' 1000W

Cooler not sure of and cant if I need a soundcard either.

Want to try and keep it fairly quiet if possible so dont know about those gfx card and dont know about going SLI either. Currently got 2 6950s in xfire and its been a pain with stuff not working and microstutter so little wary.

What do you think? happy to take suggestions as I've basically cobbled this together looking at other specs and not entirely sure if I'm doing the right thing :)
 
Decent spec, i think i can get you better value though..

3K spec with new monitor..

I went non-watercooled, but it would be completely different if you were up for watercooling (290X's :D)

YOUR BASKET
2 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 WindForce 3x OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-N780OC-3GD) £479.99 (£959.98)
1 x Benq XL2720T 27" TRUE 120Hz 3D Vision 2.0 Widescreen LED Monitor - Black/Red £379.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x Corsair Professional Series AX 860W '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply (CP-9020044-UK) £169.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £163.99
2 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £149.99 (£299.98)
1 x Corsair Obsidian 750D Full Tower Case - Black (CC-9011035-WW) £134.99
1 x OcUK Tech Labs Fathom All in One Custom Cooler 240mm £112.97
- 1 x XSPC EX240 120mm Radiator - Black £41.99
- 1 x Mayhems X1 UV Red Premixed Watercooling Fluid 1L £7.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance Pro Red 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (CMY8GX3M2B2133C9R) £83.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance Pro Silver 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (CMY8GX3M2B2133C9) £83.99
2 x Toshiba 3TB 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 64MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA300) HDD £81.95 (£163.90)
1 x Corsair Generation 2 Sleeved Cable Kit (AXi / AX / HX / TXM) - Red £64.99
1 x Creative Sound Blaster Z High Performance Gaming Sound Card - OEM (30SB150200000) £53.99
1 x Corsair SP120 Performance Series High Pressure - Dual Pack (CO-9050008-WW) £25.99
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £13.99
Total : £3,029.33 (includes shipping : £22.20).

 
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ThaReaperGuy said:
^ Switch the PSU to the non-i version. ;)

Looks good, although, I'd still want 290X's anyway!
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Any reason for the non-i version?

I would have gone 290X's but they only come with the stock cooler at the moment which is loud and they get hot.. and thats even without Xfire..

If it was under water 290X's all the way

Or wait until aftermarket coolers appear. :D
 
Doomedspeed said:
Any reason for the non-i version?

I would have gone 290X's but they only come with the stock cooler at the moment which is loud and they get hot.. and thats even without Xfire..

If it was under water 290X's all the way

Or wait until aftermarket coolers appear. :D
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Corsair AX are made by Seasonic.
Corsair AXi are made by CWT.

8 Pack, doesn't speak fondly of the AXi series at all.

& Fair point with the stock coolers, I'd wait just that extra and grab 2 nice 290X's! :p
 
Thanks for the suggestions :)

Never done watercooling and want low maintenance so hesitant to go down that route.

Would need 16gb RAM mate, Photoshop CC chomps through loads!

Had AMD cards for years now but fancied the change to Nvidia, was pondering waiting on the 780ti. Are the R290X's the way forward, looked at benches but seemed to not be much in it. Also current xfire setup puts me off slightly although I believe there are framepacing drivers out? The new nvidia monitor thing looked tempting too. What are your thoughts?

Edit: I'm in no rush to get this, sometime in November is basically when I want it for so can hold on for gfx cards if its worth it
 
ThaReaperGuy said:
Corsair AX are made by Seasonic.
Corsair AXi are made by CWT.

8 Pack, doesn't speak fondly of the AXi series at all.

& Fair point with the stock coolers, I'd wait just that extra and grab 2 nice 290X's! :p
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Just changed my spec above to have the AX860 (non-i).. :)

Silly corsair..

I would wait for the 290X's too but if i was doing it now, id go with my spec above.. if he can wait a few weeks, 290X's. :D
 
Mightyashy said:
Thanks for the suggestions :)

Never done watercooling and want low maintenance so hesitant to go down that route.

Would need 16gb RAM mate, Photoshop CC chomps through loads!

Had AMD cards for years now but fancied the change to Nvidia, was pondering waiting on the 780ti. Are the R290X's the way forward, looked at benches but seemed to not be much in it. Also current xfire setup puts me off slightly although I believe there are framepacing drivers out? The new nvidia monitor thing looked tempting too. What are your thoughts?

Edit: I'm in no rush to get this, sometime in November is basically when I want it for so can hold on for gfx cards if its worth it
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Fair enough, watercooling isn't for everyone.

Yes you do need 16GB.. Updated my spec again with 16GB. :D ( i knew that, was just to into speccing. :))

The 290X is a bit better than the 780/TITAN but comes in under what the 780's were at (price-wise) £500.. With some good offers they will be more competitive.. Either way, you won't regret what decison you make (just don't go with TITAN's)..

Its best if you hold on for you GPU's.. COme back in November and we'll proper spec you then...

Do you like the look of my spec though? :)
 
Doomedspeed said:
Fair enough, watercooling isn't for everyone.

Yes you do need 16GB.. Updated my spec again with 16GB. :D ( i knew that, was just to into speccing. :))

The 290X is a bit better than the 780/TITAN but comes in under what the 780's were at (price-wise) £500.. With some good offers they will be more competitive.. Either way, you won't regret what decison you make (just don't go with TITAN's)..

Its best if you hold on for you GPU's.. COme back in November and we'll proper spec you then...

Do you like the look of my spec though? :)
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The benefits of watercooling definitely appeal to me, I would love a silent system but nervous of having no experience at all, needing the PC for work so any catastrophes would be very bad haha!

Think waiting until next month may be the best thing, any idea what the pricing/availability is on the 780ti's?

Spec looks good mate, not getting a monitor just yet, I've got 2 dell u2410's at the moment but will add a gaming monitor somewhere down the line or switch them to 2 27" 1440p ones, struggling to decide at the moment.
 
hmm looking at the benchmarks it would appear I would be very silly going for 780sli over 2 of the 290x's wouldnt it? still not convinced on xfire though. saw anandtech saying its much improved though? :confused:
 
Yeah the 290x seems to have the 780 beaten.

Would be with waiting for 290x's with aftermarket coolers though as the stock ones and loud and hot.
 
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