Brand v Paxman

Politics would be a lot more interesting for the likes of him tbh. At least he's unashamed and determined in his questioning of the way things are.

Crap comedian though.
 
I can honestly see riots in this country within a few years, the government is squeezing the poorest in our society (and there are a lot of them) they can only take so much before desperation kicks in.
 
danoliver1 said:
I can honestly see riots in this country within a few years, the government is squeezing the poorest in our society (and there are a lot of them) they can only take so much before desperation kicks in.
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It desperately needs to be non-violent though. Is anyone here going to the Million Mask March?
 
Good interview to be honest, Paxman managed to get him to break out of character several times which I've never seen before.

Brand raised some fair points as well as some nonsense.
 
gillywibble said:
It desperately needs to be non-violent though. Is anyone here going to the Million Mask March?
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I would love to see the politicians faces when a million strong mob storm the houses of parliament nooses in hand. This will be the only time we will see serious changes in this country.
 
MoNkeE said:
He is an intelligent man, there's no mistaking that. Like him or loathe him, the man has interesting concepts.

As for saying he's a hypocrite, not really. Is someone not allowed to rise to his position before realising he doesn't like the tier he inhabits? And after all, if it wasn't for his celebrity, how would he get any exposure to bring these thoughts to the table? I also wouldn't call him one of the 1%; wealthy perhaps, but I fear you may be grossly over-estimating his wealth.
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Exactly, anyone who thinks he's a fool is a fool. Just because you don't like someone they are not automatically fools to make yourself feel better.
 
Just mindless rhetoric, attention seeking diatribe. If he wants to live in a communist state he can't leave soon enough.

He's an intelligent man, but I find him vulgar and irritating.

His points have been said before, it's nothing new.

A revolution? Oh come on.
 
gillywibble said:
Democracy in this country is a lie, it's one big boys club. The best thing to do with your voting card is chuck it in the recycling bin.
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I always insist on voting - begrudgingly. I vote for the one bunch of the standing corrupt elitists that best serve my needs. Whoever you vote for, they are still members of the same old boys' network.

I always thought Brand was a knob but I can't argue that he has some good points in this interview. He's a bit too left for my liking though, his ideas of mass wealth redistribution would drive companies out of the UK and would result in mass unemployment.
 
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I really despise the whole anti-rich argument as well. It has no basis or logic whatsoever and if you agree with it then why aren't you living belowthe breadline and donating everything you have to charity? Oh wait, because you worked hard for it and want to enjoy life.

And I disagree with non-voters. Bristol's election of a home-grown, grass-roots major is testament to how democracy works. Not voting "because one of the big two will get in so what's the point" is ridiculous. If everyone who didn't vote voted for a 'third-party' so to speak (sorry Lib Dems) then they'd likely have a strong majority.
 
Freefaller said:
Just mindless rhetoric, attention seeking diatribe. If he wants to live in a communist state he can't leave soon enough.

He's an intelligent man, but I find him vulgar and irritating.

His points have been said before, it's nothing new.

A revolution? Oh come on.
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As much as I love you Freefaller, we do need a revolution.

Vive la revolution!
 
I think we should at least celebrate someone who appeals to the masses bringing up interesting conversation, encouraging a broad vocab and starting debate.
 
gillywibble said:
As much as I love you Freefaller, we do need a revolution.

Vive la revolution!
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Been there done that :p

A shake up is fine but his extreme left wing ramblings aren't particularly original and have little substance other than just showboating.

A lot of his views would see a massive exodus of the uk and a demise of British business. I'm afraid I'm very much not a socialist from that aspect despite holding republican views on many things.
 
Freefaller said:
A lot of his views would see a massive exodus of the uk and a demise of British business. I'm afraid I'm very much not a socialist from that aspect despite holding republican views on many things.
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His ideas might have been a little more effective decades ago when we weren't in a global economy, but yep, tax too heavily now and people go elsewhere, plus you remove the incentive for people to better themselves, dropping everyone down to the lowest common denominator.

I don't care much for the current system in all honesty, it doesn't matter who you vote for, they're all part of the same old boys' network. What we need is to start voting for independent candidates who actually give a damn about their constituents.
 
danoliver1 said:
Then the government should stop turning the public into peasants groveling for food at food banks and freezing in unheated houses.
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Right I forgot we were a third world nation.

Narj said:
His ideas might have been a little more effective decades ago when we weren't in a global economy, but yep, tax too heavily now and people go elsewhere, plus you remove the incentive for people to better themselves, dropping everyone down to the lowest common denominator.

I don't care much for the current system in all honesty, it doesn't matter who you vote for, they're all part of the same old boys' network. What we need is to start voting for independent candidates who actually give a damn about their constituents.
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Yeah I don't disagree with that. I'm quite up for a change but not at the detriment of all that's good in the system currently.
 
Russinating said:
I really despise the whole anti-rich argument as well. It has no basis or logic whatsoever and if you agree with it then why aren't you living belowthe breadline and donating everything you have to charity? Oh wait, because you worked hard for it and want to enjoy life.
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So all rich people worked hard for it did they? We have a perfect meritocracy where someone's wealth is directly proportional to their invention, innovation and physical input?

I cannot disagree with communism enough, that doesn't mean though that capitalism, or rather our version of it, is anywhere near perfect.

IMO, wealth should be linear. It should be just as easy for someone with £10 to their name to make £100 as it is for a millionaire to lose £100 but sadly that is no where near the case. The whole concept of interest for example makes it hard for rich people to lose money and for poor people to make it. We have a system where people who start of with millions can make hundreds of thousands more just by moving their money around with very little effort.

I do not begrudge the likes of Bill Gates or Steve Jobs being megarich because they have had a massively positive effect on society and people's lives. However the likes of Mitt Romney who become rich by ruining people's lives can do one.
 
Freefaller said:
Right I forgot we were a third world nation.
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Thats a very blinkered view, I personally know people who cant afford gas and electricity and live off very basic food stuffs as a direct result of this governments taxation laws. For people below the poverty line it might as well be. The only saving grace in this country is the NHS and even thats under attack from this government.

There are many systems in place to keep the poor poor and the rich rich i mean if everyone was rich who would do the *&^% jobs?
 
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