290X has nothing vs OC 780 GTX?

Marine-RX179 · 24 Oct 2013 at 22:33

mjenabi2 said:
im not allowed to link to other sellers, but the 780 has been available for £460 for quite a bit now and next week, holiday bundle, 3 free games and im sure there will be a deal on another card, it will make a great deal.

also nvidia may slash their prices, we dont know yet

Yea but don't forget 290 is also on the way as well. And judging the leaked bench from Gibbo, it's gonna be around 93% of 290x's performance at stock, so on the same clock it should put it at around 95%~ of the 290x.

If the 290s come launch at £350 give or take, the 780 seriously need to slash price down to at least £400...even Gibbo said that himself.

MrMarvelous · 24 Oct 2013 at 22:35

old gamer said:
Are there any prices yet for the 290 or are they still under nda

They'll probably look exactly the same as the 290X.

almighty15 · 24 Oct 2013 at 22:36

Them Nvidia boys are raging today...

Kaapstad · 24 Oct 2013 at 22:37

almighty15 said:
Them Nvidia boys are raging today...

Not me.

almighty15 · 24 Oct 2013 at 22:40

Gibbo.... Worth selling my 7950 Crossfire and moving to a 290 or 290X?

I know given the right game and scaking the 7950's should be faster but I assume an overclocked 290 or 290X wouldn't to be far behind them?

Marine-RX179 · 24 Oct 2013 at 22:43

Kaapstad said:
Not me.

Who says anything about you?

We all know you are "4 of everything boy". If it is legal in the UK, I bet you want 4 wives as well

...on second thought, probably no, since it would mean 0 graphic card for you if that happened

Fulax · 24 Oct 2013 at 22:44

reddev85 said:
Mature comment. He knows quite a lot as it happens, I'd imagine more than you do about the subject. His advice and opinions about a product have never let me down once. The sheer amount of depth and detail he goes into when reviewing something may not be to everyone's taste I'll admit, but he's in my top 3 reviewers. I'd much rather watch one of his videos than a 3 min clip with a "hi, heres some graphs, bye" attitude.

He doesn't go into depth and detail - he just repeats himself over and over.

I quite like the guy, but I always end up skipping to the conclusion of his reviews, rather than listening to him spend 10 minutes telling us how he isn't a huge fan of the 290X's looks.

Kaapstad · 24 Oct 2013 at 22:47

Marine-RX179 said:
Who says anything about you?

We all know you are "4 of everything boy". If it is legal in the UK, I bet you want 4 wives as well

...on second thought, probably no, since it would mean 0 graphic card for you if that happened

Yes women can seriously damage your gaming pleasure. :eek:

My ex is in South Africa and even at that distance she is still costing me too much money. :eek:

Suarez7 · 24 Oct 2013 at 22:50

Kaapstad said:
Yes women can seriously damage your gaming pleasure.

My ex is in South Africa and even at that distance she is still costing me too much money.

There's probably a few people you can call over there to finish the job for a small fee :eek:

Gripen90 · 24 Oct 2013 at 22:54

I'm keepin' my 780's but the misses will get a R9 290.

Panos · 24 Oct 2013 at 22:59

almighty15 said:
Gibbo.... Worth selling my 7950 Crossfire and moving to a 290 or 290X?

I know given the right game and scaking the 7950's should be faster but I assume an overclocked 290 or 290X wouldn't to be far behind them?

If you have your two 7950s at 1100/1550 that are running cool and quiet, don't think about it as logic move. Ofc you can still do it, but you will lose quite a bit of performance no matter how good you can clock a 290 or 290X.
And get back more noise and heat.

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As for the discussion regarding the 290X vs GTX780, price, heat etc, you have forgotten most of you (especially the Nvidia evangelists), that there is a Sapphire 280X Toxic roaming around the woods at £250, and bites the GTX780s.

mjenabi2 · 24 Oct 2013 at 23:00

Marine-RX179 said:
Yea but don't forget 290 is also on the way as well. And judging the leaked bench from Gibbo, it's gonna be around 93% of 290x's performance at stock, so on the same clock it should put it at around 95%~ of the 290x.

If the 290s come launch at £350 give or take, the 780 seriously need to slash price down to at least £400...even Gibbo said that himself.

although i will wait for as long as possible before i buy a card, im pretty sure it wont be the 290x or the 290.

again, at the res im playing, i wouldnt notice any difference but one thing i will notice will be the fan noise and of course the heat.

im pretty sure the 780s will drop down to £450, no less, with the games bundle but they will drop further when the 780 ti comes out.

these are just theories tho. i thought the 770 would get a price cut when 280X came out, but that hasnt happened yet. we'll just have to wait and see.

Kaapstad · 24 Oct 2013 at 23:00

mjenabi2 · 24 Oct 2013 at 23:01

Suarez7 said:
There's probably a few people you can call over there to finish the job for a small fee

poor taste... ?

Marine-RX179 · 24 Oct 2013 at 23:02

mjenabi2 said:
im pretty sure the 780s will drop down to £450, no less, with the games bundle but they will drop further when the 780 ti comes out.

Ain't the game bundle only till the end of the month?

almighty15 · 24 Oct 2013 at 23:02

mjenabi2 said:
although i will wait for as long as possible before i buy a card, im pretty sure it wont be the 290x or the 290.

again, at the res im playing, i wouldnt notice any difference but one thing i will notice will be the fan noise and of course the heat.

im pretty sure the 780s will drop down to £450, no less, with the games bundle but they will drop further when the 780 ti comes out.

these are just theories tho. i thought the 770 would get a price cut when 280X came out, but that hasnt happened yet. we'll just have to wait and see.

The money you save with a 290 or 290X you can buy an Arctic Accelero VGA cooler and get a quieter, faster card then anything Nvidia offer.

DeathofRats · 24 Oct 2013 at 23:17

almighty15 said:
The money you save with a 290 or 290X you can buy an Arctic Accelero VGA cooler and get a quieter, faster card then anything Nvidia offer.

Will that even fit an r9 290(x)?

mjenabi2 · 24 Oct 2013 at 23:31

almighty15 said:
The money you save with a 290 or 290X you can buy an Arctic Accelero VGA cooler and get a quieter, faster card then anything Nvidia offer.

well. i have had two of those. one on the 480 and one on the 5870. one of the reasons i got rid of the 480 was that the accelero cooler, pushes all the heat to my cpu cooler, noctua d14 and also it bent the card but it was quiet and cool.

again, again again, at 1080p, i wont notice a difference in performance and a 780 would be good enough for me for at least 3 years. just as my 480 would have done if i wasnt stupid and not have sold it...

if i can get a 780 at £480 with the free games, i would not blink, just buy it straight away. i will keep AC4 and sell the other two games for at least £40. so problem solved. cool, quiet, fast card at the same price as the 290x with ref cooler

t103Ninja · 25 Oct 2013 at 03:08

the 290x is an amazing card especialy when you factor in the price of it but running at 95c? thats way to hot for me so based on that id rather have the 780

Marine-RX179 · 25 Oct 2013 at 06:50

t103Ninja said:
the 290x is an amazing card especialy when you factor in the price of it but running at 95c? thats way to hot for me so based on that id rather have the 780

It's hotter because it's running faster than the 780 and Titan on average.

If people were to undervolt and underclock the card to match the 780 overall performance, I doubt it would be too much hotter, but the huge money saving would still be there.

The biggest problem with the heat of the 290x is because of the relatively weak stock cooler...who knows? May be by the time Nvidia slashed the price, 290x would already have custom coolers from partners.

mjenabi2 said:
well. i have had two of those. one on the 480 and one on the 5870. one of the reasons i got rid of the 480 was that the accelero cooler, pushes all the heat to my cpu cooler, noctua d14 and also it bent the card but it was quiet and cool.

again, again again, at 1080p, i wont notice a difference in performance and a 780 would be good enough for me for at least 3 years. just as my 480 would have done if i wasnt stupid and not have sold it...

if i can get a 780 at £480 with the free games, i would not blink, just buy it straight away. i will keep AC4 and sell the other two games for at least £40. so problem solved. cool, quiet, fast card at the same price as the 290x with ref cooler

If that's what you want to do then go ahead. But to be honest your problem of "the heat from the graphic card going to the CPU" is not really a problem for people with a case that got airflow set up properly (i.e. with fans at side-panel next to the graphic card as exhaust), or even people can solve this by just using a all-in-one water cooling for the CPU.

But I do agree that the performance different in general won't be very noticable in real-world gaming, if people were just gaming on a 1920 res 60Hz monitor, however the different would be much more apparent when gaming on 120Hz monitor or on games like Metro or settings such as SuperSampling that are known to be memory intensive- overclock vs overclock, the 290x can hit nearly around 100GB/s higher in memory bandwidth than the GTX780.