http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-24675040
Locked up for 40 years. Hope he rots there...
Locked up for 40 years. Hope he rots there...
Racist Man admits murder and mosque blasts
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Just to give you an update on the situation. There have now been 150+ replies, only 4 for the development.
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**** should have got life. If he took the life of someone then he deserves the same to happen to him by serving a life time sentence.
He did get life, he got a minimum tariff of 40 years which is incredibly high.
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He'll be out in 20yrs, or will he? Seeing as hes attacked a minority he'll probably serve a full sentence.
Another example of our failed justice system - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-24608144
Killed two people? Thats ok, there you go mate go ruin some more peoples lives.
Another example of our failed justice system - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-24608144
Killed two people? Thats ok, there you go mate go ruin some more peoples lives.
What they want to build is a complete monstrosity
Fine if there was a substantial Muslim population here but there's not. Not a single Muslim person is living in any of the adjacent streets. They have also been lying about how much they have been doing for the local community. They just turn up in droves for prayer time and then disappear again. And yet there proposal is full of stuff they supposedly done for the local roads. Which they have done nothing.
Yes i think the is a difference because the Muslim population are very quick to pull out the race card when they don't get what they want. And MP's and Councillors what to be as far away as possible from those allegations, especially when there are elections a couple of years down the line
Hold on a minute.
You're saying a mosque shouldn't be built for muslims to pray in because;
a) it's not visually appealing to you
and
b) muslims didn't fix your local roads.
Pure comedy gold
lmaoIt is one of the reasons people commonly object to any new build, and to be honest that particular design is pretty atrocious.
I thought he was saying it was more that they lied about fixing the local roads?
I think it's pretty ghastly design too. But think of it this way would you hate it more if it had full on minarets?
I see stuff being built all the time which I don't like the look of, but have I ever thought twice about it, not my money, not my business.
It's like wanting to ban the Chrysler PT Cruiser, it's the ugliest car in existence, but that doesn't mean one can say "hey, you're not allowed to park that on my road."
I see stuff being built all the time which I don't like the look of, but have I ever thought twice about it, not my money, not my business.
It's like wanting to ban the Chrysler PT Cruiser, it's the ugliest car in existence, but that doesn't mean one can say "hey, you're not allowed to park that on my road."
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I think his main point was that there is no muslim community in the immediate vicinity and that those turning up to pray were from outside the area. Fair enough if there was a large contingent in the surrounding roads but that appears to not be the case (assuming he has his facts right). An ugly car is not a relevant comparison.
There's a big Sikh temple about 5 mins from me. No problem, there's a Sikh community in the area, but I'd be a bit annoyed if someone wanted to build something like that or a Scientology church around the corner from me seeing as it'd be pretty irrelevant to the local residents.
I take it they're not allowed to do the call to prayer thing early in the morning because of noise abatement laws and the like?
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You're not using good logic. You are using irrational logic. You're creating borders where none exist and none should be.
You are thinking that for there to be a Scientology church there must be a certain number of Scientologists living within a particular radius of it. But that's not very integrative. What if there is a scientologist living outside of your arbitrary border limit? According to your logic, everyone with differing beliefs should be completely segregated from the other, which isn't very humane. What if there was a couple of Christian people in a mostly Scientological community, should the scientologists banish the Christians? Hell no. The humane course of action is to mind your own beliefs.
Furthermore the mosque is relatively small. And I see no car park like a supermarket. So it's logical to assume most worshippers will arrive on foot.
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Forget extremists for one second, and put criminals aside - all humble people want to do is to live life peacefully.
Do people think it's one's intention to infuriate the community by building a "monstrosity" nearby? for goodness sake, no. The intention is simply to build a building where one can pray, so why people cannot simply rest their hate and let it be I will never understand. And I'm glad I will never understand. I guess it's because my logic is based on intentions and actuality, and not figments of hate fuelled by generalisations and other nonsense.
Do people think it's one's intention to infuriate the community by building a "monstrosity" nearby? for goodness sake, no. The intention is simply to build a building where one can pray, so why people cannot simply rest their hate and let it be I will never understand. And I'm glad I will never understand. I guess it's because my logic is based on intentions and actuality, and not figments of hate fuelled by generalisations and other nonsense.
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I see what your saying and fair play, but who the hell designs these things? Can they not be built to blend in a bit more?
I also think it's an eyesore, and yes they most certainly can be built to blend in a bit more. But again, that's the fault of one particular architect and not Muslims.
Sorry but he has been sentenced. You seem to hate this man for acting on his own hate. But what about the person who will knife him in prison? Will he be a good person in your eyes just because he slayed a person you hate? What kind of person will this prison murderer be in the eyes of someone neutral to the situation?
Remember on the grand old neutral scheme of things, he will be a bad person because he still killed another human.
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I wasn't actually blaming muslims but hey ho. There are quite a few up the road in Blackburn and they are just as ugly so maybe the same architect designs them all
I wasn't actually blaming muslims but hey ho. There are quite a few up the road in Blackburn and they are just as ugly so maybe the same architect designs them all
Sorry I didn't actually mean you in particular were blaming Muslims but I see why you understood it that way. It was just a general point for anyone who is considering that.
I don't hate it, I just think it looks ghastly. Minarets aren't really my thing either, I prefer architecture with a bit of decent design behind.
Part of the planning process is to allow local people to raise objections if they dislike something. Whether that is a good or a bad thing depends on your point of view. But don't consider all objections to be hating on Muslims, they may just be hating on an awful design or the impact a mosque could have on the area in terms of disruption.
Just got his PhD and now he's in prison with no chance of parole before he's 65 in 40 years time. Unbelievable. How can someone throw their whole life away for such utter pettiness and stupidity. That someone so clever who gets himself a PhD can be so incredibly dumb is mind boggling.