Racist Man admits murder and mosque blasts

He should take the time to learn not only this fact and act responsibly to reduce it but also take his earning's back to improve his homeland and reduce the need for immigration.

Wow. Stopped reading at this gem of retardation in the first paragraph. You've managed to document it to the world once again.

So you want immigrants in the UK to earn money from the British economy and pump it straight into their country of origin's economy?

Very smart. :rolleyes: Retardation proven once again. Bravo. I'm certain you've proven your hypocrisy again as well but I really cannot be bothered reading your frankly mind boggling and grammatically erroneous post.
 
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Anyone sporting Roman, Norse or Germanic traits should be sent home just in case. Leave Britain to the British and any scrubs that came after ~350000 years ago should be deported :mad:
 
Astagfirullah, MURTAD! lol ur choice asim18. Have you told your parents yet? Somehow, i don't think so.

Why would Asim feel like he would need his parents' permission to stop believing in something? We're in a society that allows the freedom to believe what you like (or nothing at all, as the case may be).

Shock as fear is one of the tools used to keep people within organised religion these days (nothing changes then).
 
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Well, that would depend on the reason for the harshly mismatched design. It's possible that the architect was specifically told to make it not blend in, by Muslims who don't want to blend in because they want to reshape this country (and the rest of the world) to suit them.

And if Muslims didn't like it then they can reject the design and ask the architect to do it again? So yeah that doesn't wash, the Muslims at the community centre are responsible for the design.
 
He should take the time to learn not only this fact and act responsibly to reduce it but also take his earning's back to improve his homeland and reduce the need for immigration.

Really? Take money back their homeland to improve it? We need people to spend money here not puping money abroad.

Smart reply... Keep them coming. :rolleyes:
 
Really? Take money back their homeland to improve it? We need people to spend money here not puping money abroad.

Smart reply... Keep them coming. :rolleyes:

Actually isn't this already happening in droves anyway? Sending money back home isn't a new concept. Thanks to the EU they can even claim Child benefit in this country for kids they have back in there home countries. That part has to stop immediately!
 
Like i said blame your own government not the immigrants!

Its not just all the freebies they claim its when they bring family over to use the NHS too and then i get charged £300 dental fees for working??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

It baffles the mind it does.
 
I never said it was not founded by the Romans though and i know this i said earlier i love Military history and especially Rome. Colchester would be another and yes while you have a point about immigrants founding it they are hardly like modern day immigrants when these are European people interacting with other Europeans within Europe.

Rubbish. You're picking an artificial and arbitrary modern distinction ("European") and applying it to 2000 years ago when it was of no relevance (and didn't even exist). That's hardly a compelling point. Nobody thought of themselves as European back then - that's an extremely recent idea.

Rome provides a good example - time and time again, neighbouring tribes were so culturally seperated that they couldn't even ally, let alone unify, to fight of a direct threat of invasion and conquest by an external enemy! The British tribes, for example, could have defeated the Roman invasion by allying, even just a temporary alliance. Even if half of them allied, it would have been enough. Yet they didn't, even with a hugely capable and charismatic leader (Caractacus) trying to forge that alliance. You're painting a picture of a commonality ("European") which wasn't even anywhere near close to existing.

Back then we were the Barbarians and they brought us civilization close to what we would assume as a modern civilization with city's, taxes, bath houses and roman roads.
Not entirely true. Consider, for example, Poole's pre-Roman docks. Poole was a major port at least 300 years before the Roman invasion, heavily built up from the natural harbour with large permanent structures. It was probably used before then, but the oldest extant remains date from the mid 3rd century BC. Artificial docks nearly 300 feet long, solidly built with stone. Obviously, this means there was very large scale international trading going on in Iron Age Britain. You don't built docks that size by hand unless you need them.

There's some evidence of international trade from southern Britain back into the Bronze Age, possibly more than 3000 years ago (i.e. before Rome even existed). It's not explicitly stated, but there's good reason to think that the British Isles are the "tin islands" from which Bronze Age meditterranean cultures got the tin they needed to make bronze. Out the med, along the coast northwards and it's not long until you reach the south coast of Britain, where you could trade for boatloads of tin.

Iron Age British tribes were quite civilised, living mostly in permanent settlements (including some large enough to count as cities in those days) and capable of building major structures. The Romans saw them as barbarians...but the Romans saw pretty much everyone else as barbarians. Part of the reason for Rome invading was that Roman leaders thought (correctly) that most of the British tribes were barbarians who were civilised enough to welcome Roman civilisation, to see it as an upgrade.

And not all the Britons adapted to Roman culture mate. Many opposed it including the Iceni who actually burned it to the ground before Paulinus crushed them with his Wedge formation at Watling Street.
The Icenii accepted client nation status and were adapting to Roman culture. It was the brutality and stupidity of the procturator fiscal at the time that eventually triggered the revolt bubbling as a result of the ignorant policies of the governor, implemented ignorantly and arrogantly by the army. If the Romans had stuck with standard imperial policy for the circumstances, the revolt wouldn't have happened.

You could have chosen Caractacus' coalition as a better example, as that was opposition to Roman rule on principle rather than as a result of insane psycho fury.

But the best example of your point (which, incidentally, does nothing to counter mine) would be the Dumnonii because they never romanised. Right through the Roman period, they remained Iron Age Britons. The only Roman remains found in their lands are either clearly official (e.g. the Roman army base in Exeter) or very likely official (e.g. some Roman remains related to mining, which the Roman authorities would almost certainly have controlled or at least kept a close eye on).

I just meant to say that people harp on about London being a shining example of how rich the UK could become boosted by migrant labour. London is just lucky to have been the first real major city to have it all with the Thames for transport and later the City Of London based there. Even today it is one of the biggest financial centers in the world maybe second only to New york? I just do not believe that migrants have made London the city it is today. At least not the migrants that are relevant to this thread.
Neither do I, but you were making a generalisation that I think is invalid.

You almost had me though you so and so i take it you played RTW as a kid and got into history the same way?
No. I studied Latin at school with a superb teacher and that got me interested in ancient Rome. My interest in British history expanded from there, mostly.

Are you into say Napoleonic and others?
No. Roman, with a side interest in later medieval England and 19th century England (because of how often I found the roots of modern English things in that period of time).

Send me a trust so as not to go off topic.
This thread has a topic?
 
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Anyone sporting Roman, Norse or Germanic traits should be sent home just in case. Leave Britain to the British and any scrubs that came after ~350000 years ago should be deported :mad:

Err...that's everybody. The available evidence indicates that Britain was unpopulated during the last ice age and repopulated (by immigrants, obviously) not much more than 10,000 years ago.

It makes sense. Would you want to live anywhere in Britain in an ice age? You might have been able to eke out a living in the southernmost part, but why not just walk further south to less inhospitable lands? Britain was still attached to Europe in those days, so it was dry land all the way.

Also, the first mention of anyone being British was a Roman idea. None of the people living on this island thought of themselves as British - their self-identification was tribal. Icenii, Brigante, whatever...but not British. Also, the earliest records we have on the origin of the Iron Age British tribes (Gaius Julius Caesar's account of his Gallic wars) states that the Britons (as he saw them) that he got information from said that the British tribes of the east coast were immigrants...and it's clear from his comments about the origin of the metal being traded in southeast Britain that what he thought was the east coast was actually most of Britain.
 
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You specified Roman, Norse or Germanic.

That isn't everyone on this island for the last 350,000 years.

You also specified "leave Britain to the British". Since "British" is a Roman classification, that would place the indigenous inhabitants as the people here when the Romans arrived. That matches up very well with your specified non-indigenous groups - Roman, Norse and Germanic (both of whom came predominantly after the Roman period).

Your post didn't go over my head. You just got it wrong and your post did not say what you thought it said.
 
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My post was a flippant poke at racists who want Britain for Brits, even though the very idea of the British being a mix of peoples and cultures is alien to them

Unwind your PC knickers now please :)
 
Wow. Stopped reading at this gem of retardation in the first paragraph. You've managed to document it to the world once again.

So you want immigrants in the UK to earn money from the British economy and pump it straight into their country of origin's economy?

Very smart. :rolleyes: Retardation proven once again. Bravo. I'm certain you've proven your hypocrisy again as well but I really cannot be bothered reading your frankly mind boggling and grammatically erroneous post.


No i want them to take it back once thier visa is over and not settle. This trend of working here and becoming British is just wrong. If i go and live in Asia until i am 90 am i Asian? Are my children Asian? Did we intermarry with natives to become Asian? Hell no so stop spouting this myth that hey look at me i am British with my British visa. You cannot even grasp that the only reason they are here is to help our economy and give a better life to them. They already make a profit for Britain INC by doing the work for the employer. If they take the saving's back to India or Pakistan maybe they might actually get some decent roads and schools and not be falling over themselves to get here and swamp us.



And once again the person who claims to be intelligent, articulate and have a high quality education much better than most Brits has to resort to petty insults. grammar and refuses to read past the first paragraph. It seems a bit pathetic and it is the last time i post in here because it is not even a proper discussion. You still ignore my main facts and have once again resorted to nothing but insults. Oh and wherever you got that education son you really need to ask for a refund.
 
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Hell no so stop spouting this myth that hey look at me i am British with my British visa.

The heck are you talking about I don't have any visas. :confused:

Stop making yourself look stupid. Everyone told you when you first came into this thread. Now all you're doing is cementing your stupidity over and over.


You cannot even grasp that the only reason they are here is to help our economy and give a better life to them.

Who the hell are you to decide the future of people striving for a better life?


If they take the saving's back to India or Pakistan maybe they might actually get some decent roads and schools and not be falling over themselves to get here and swamp us.

Hahaha. More utter hypocrisy. You accuse me of picking up on your self publicised and widely self-documented retardation, yet you tarnish two whole countries based on absolutely nothing in just one sentence. Oh dear.

Just shows you know nothing about immigration. Pakistan and India are NOT in the EU, one does not simply walk into England.

Oh and wherever you got that education son you really need to ask for a refund.

I don't know about NI, but here in England you don't need to pay to be educated in something as basic as proper apostrophe use. Oh damn I reaped the benefits of the state funded education system :eek: that's going to make you terribly angry isn't it. :D

Let me give you a little friendly advice that may help you appear less stupid; if you don't know how to use an apostrophe, just don't use it! ;)
 
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Anyway, I was really hoping Asim would elaborate on his story of climbing out of the mire that is peer pressure and imposed beliefs (which is admirable and I sincerely tip my hat to him for it). Being an apostate must be pretty tough and all, but in the absence of his reply...


Asim, if you're in London sometime I'll buy you a beer (if you drink, otherwise I'll get you something else of your choice). :)
 
My post was a flippant poke at racists who want Britain for Brits, even though the very idea of the British being a mix of peoples and cultures is alien to them

Unwind your PC knickers now please :)

Ah, so you're just being a fool.

You realise that babbling about PC in that way makes you look like a fool, right?
 
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