Help guys! Prodigy MITX water build....

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Hi all...

Right, new build req come in.. I bought a full EK blocked 7990 from toxictbag, with a view to sticking it into my currently dormant bright orange prodigy....

Specs are going to be 4770k with asus impact... 7990 GPU, thats going into the loop (I think) unless someone things I could get an AIO on the CPU and a rad in the roof?

So i need a plan... I was thinking / hoping to go for the largest rad possible into the roof and then cool both from that, im not going for super cool temps, would like 4.4 on the CPU. I wont be OCing the 7990 at all.

My question is, what do I need,

What i need is advice on placement and best bits as I really dont know what "the best" 240 rad is


Hit me with the ideas..
 
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You sacrifice a lot of space, but I've seen an mITX prodigy build with a 240 rad up front and a 240 in the roof. They removed all drive cages and sat the pump/res where they would be.
 
I have 2 x 2TB drives to go in so that could be an issue, would just 1 rad in the roof be enough and a res on the deck? Also which res should I go for / pump combination?
 
I was going to use gentle typhoons for the propulsion, when you say cannot be done do you mean too much heat being generated for any setup to cope with?
 
Was looking at trying to squeeze this little lot in!

EK Water Blocks EK-DCP 2.2 X-RES (incl. pump) EK Water Blocks EK-DCP 2.2 X-RES (incl.
EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy Clean CSQ - Acetal + Nickel EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy Clean CSQ - Acetal + Nickel £52.99
XSPC EX240 Crossflow Radiator XSPC EX240 Crossflow Radiator £44.99
XSPC EX120 120mm Radiator - Black XSPC EX120 120mm Radiator - Black
XSPC HighFlex Hose 3/8" ID, 5/8" OD, 16/10mm, 2m, Red/UV Orange XSPC HighFlex Hose 3/8" ID, 5/8" OD, 16/10mm, 2m, Red/UV Orange
 
I'm not sure if that pump would be up to the job.

I'm planning on a haswell i5 + 7990 in a bitfenix prodigy

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18553075

Check out the build that Singularity Computers did. You need to modify the positions of the radiators in the front (move them down a few mm) and top (move as far back as possible) in order to fit 2x240, otherwise it is a fan outside of the case thing.
 
littlepuppy said:
I was going to use gentle typhoons for the propulsion, when you say cannot be done do you mean too much heat being generated for any setup to cope with?
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What I basically mean is that the would be so much heat generated that in order to clear it you either need X rad space and Y airflow, due to the space issue X rad space is not that high which means Y airflow will have to be high RPM fans to compensate, ergo noise.

To put it in perspective, ASUS made a HD7990 with liquid cooling built in, it only cooled the GPU's (the memory/VRM's were cooled by a regular GPU fan) and it used an extra thick 120mm rad, also for a 4.4GHz i7 people would normally recommend the H100 for an all in one cooler, which is a 2x120 thin rad.

I know it can be done, but it will in no way be optimal IMO.
 
Im not that bothered about seeking out mega haswell clocks, 4.4 would be fine... I would also like to get 2 x 3.5 inch hard drives in there.. I can see there will be some "challenges" :D

Back on topic though, any recomendations on which is a good 240 rad to go for? Could I get a 280 in the front?

Cheers guys..
 
Afaik you need a 240 for i7-4770k if you will oc it. And 7990 will need another 240. I wouldn't risk a single rad. I have a Black Ice gt 240 + akasa apache fans for cpu loop, but i dont plan any big overclocks.
I have to agree that bith cpu and 7990 on single 240 is asking for trouble.
 
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64mm rad will be too thick to fit in the top ... you won't be able to bring the coolant tube back up to the GPU without a serious amount of funky fittings.

There is a lot of information on the Bitfenix and what you can/can't fit and examples of what people have done. Just need to look for it

If you really don't want to mod, then I believe it is possible to fit a 200mm rad in the front and a slim 240mm up the top, but then you won't be able to fit you 7990 in there.
 
Sod it im gonna try it! Thanks for the advice though guys, i will try a little build log when i do it!

http://www.overclock.net/t/1344465/enough-radiators

"hey man,

i just got the aplphacool 240 60mm thick rad for my mini itx prodigy build i just buttoned up. but im using it just to cool my 3570k. for what its worth, my idle temp with 2 Corsair sp120 quiet edition fans with their inline resistor to bring them down to about 1000rpm in just push is 20°C idle and load temps dont break 40°...

i would feel comfortable putting a 690 in my loop thumb.gif


i would say the 240 would be enough to keep everything well within operating temps, even with overclocks! you dont realize how freaking thick this radiator is untill you see it in person! and its heavy as hell, because its made out of 98% copper. the only part that isnt copper is the ports for the fittings, they are brass...
Edited by Sean W. - 1/1/13 at 5:32pm"
 
I think you mentioned having a 4770k.
I had a 3570k oced to 4.2 runing on h60 temps 25/50, but that was 3570k.
4770k with oc will run hot if you put it on single 240 with 7990.
I bet you will get temps around 70-80 under load and thats not good for the loop.
If you really want to try it, go ahead - its your money :-)
 
Gonna try it, to start with I will not apply any OC.. will report back how it goes, ive ordered all the "basic" bits, going to see how they fit in and then look to see what fittings I need... What is the general view on the best size tubing to fit nowadays?
 
If people say they have done it and it works then I buy it ofc, but in my head 240mm for an overclocked 4770K and a HD7990 (which is basically a pair of HD7970's) just sounds wrong even if it is 60mm thick lol.

As far as tubing goes anything over 1/4" all performs the same in a basic loop so go with what you like the look of best (the smaller it is the easier to bend).
 
Right then guys, working out the final pieces so please bear with me.. I need to decide on tubing size / which fittings to use... Advice appriciated, I want the pipe to be flexy but don't want it to be too thin,

Ignoreing pump, im going to need:

a 90 degree fitting into the rad
Straight drop Pretty much) then from rad to CPU (compression on CPU)
straight back up from CPU compression
into GPU - connecting in at 45 degrees
exit GPU at right angle to come back down to res....
I will also need something for pump but waiting to see what it looks like when it lands...

Im after the orange tubing
eg

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-129-XS

to go with the orange case...
 
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