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When are we getting some proper mid-range upgrades?
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I have sold my 2 gtx660ti's not so long ago for 140£ each, evga's.
Half the price of 670 op is complaining about ans same good.
Anyway, whats the problem with prices of 770s?
They are great and may even drop more when we get non-x 290s on the market.
Half the price of 670 op is complaining about ans same good.
Anyway, whats the problem with prices of 770s?
They are great and may even drop more when we get non-x 290s on the market.
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Theres plenty of good cards out there tbh, just buy one and be happy i guess, hopefully in a few weeks time , the 780 will drop in price and thats when a lot of people will be buying
In a few weeks? The 780 have already dropped in price, doubt they'd be dropping much/any further(gigabyte windforce is sub £400, there is/was a think kfa2 sub £400 on today only).
Well unless you mean second hand with people upgrading to 780ti and selling their 780.
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The new re-designed 280X GPU (new Tahiti XTL ) will be out in next few weeks, re-designed to use less power and run cooler, I guess that could be considered an actual new midrange card, it just wasn't ready soon enough so atm the 7970 is a straight up re-brand. This new chip will be out soon though..
http://n4g.com/news/1382645/amd-preparing-new-version-of-radeon-r9-280x-on-new-chip
http://n4g.com/news/1382645/amd-preparing-new-version-of-radeon-r9-280x-on-new-chip
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I bought mine msi gtx 670 OC as a B-grade card here on oveclockers for 239 quid when they were for 340 pounds.
How many post one's need for mm 1000?
Graphics cards have always been unfair when it comes to progress, the way you'd think it would work is each gens top performance level replaces the next one down on the next gen, for example if you have three cards in a range, low mid and high, the high of this gen should replace the mid level of the new one, what happens is we mostly get similar performance levels with small bumps at the same price points, i also think we should have titan level performance at £300.
The high end does advance more but its always expensive, the mid slowly moves up over a couple gens and the low basically hardly moves at all, it's all the same materials at the end of the day so why they can't give us real value for money i don't know, it makes me laugh when even high end stuff can't put out enough fps to stay above 60 in top settings sometimes, they expect us to get two or more gpu's now it seems!
The high end does advance more but its always expensive, the mid slowly moves up over a couple gens and the low basically hardly moves at all, it's all the same materials at the end of the day so why they can't give us real value for money i don't know, it makes me laugh when even high end stuff can't put out enough fps to stay above 60 in top settings sometimes, they expect us to get two or more gpu's now it seems!
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How many people consider £250 - £300 to be mid-range?
I mean I might be living in the past (where £150 is mid-range), and I know inflation, etc, etc, but is £250,£275,£300 really mid-range now?
Are there no budget gamers who want to buy new cards with decent coolers?
Maybe the market for that has died and I'm a dinosaur. Maybe everybody who wanted that has moved to console gaming. Maybe PC gamers all have triple SLI Titans... a lot here do by the looks of things
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Sounds like whining for whining sake to me 
Sounds like whining for whining sake to me
Not true. The current situation:
You have a 7850. It struggles with current gen games on 1080p on medium presets. It stutters, frame rates are low, 25-30 FPS or so.
You want to upgrade to a new mid-range card, your budget is the same as it was last cycle.
You realise that only cards costing £250 and more will give playable framerates at 1080p.
The GTX 660/Ti, 7850 / 7870's were Midrange cards a year ago costing £200, now those cards are midrange for about the same money, the problem is if you bought high range cards back then a midrange card today is a side grade.
Midrange always ends up last generations high range, IE: GTX 580 / 6970 = GTX 660 / 7870. this is normal, its no different today.
Midrange always ends up last generations high range, IE: GTX 580 / 6970 = GTX 660 / 7870. this is normal, its no different today.
Unless you don't consider the Rxxx series to be a new generation, the the new mid-range is *not* last gen's high-end.
In fact in your first paragraph you said this gen's mid-range is the same as last gen's mid-range, for the same money. And now the 7950 and possibly the 7850 are being discontinued, leaving only the R270X, which is even more expensive than the card it replaced, for the same performance.
I can play Crysis 3 on all very high and BF4 all Ultra without AA on a £170 7870XT with good frame rates, It eats BF3 on Ultra preset alive.
The 7850 will do BF3 on Ultra preset just fine, it will do Crysis 3 / BF4 on high.
Typo, You know what i mean
i paid £240 for a Gigabyte 7870 WF3 when they came out (no longer have it), for the same money now you can get an R9 280X, which is a 7970 and about 30% faster than the 7870 clock for clock, its a mid range card today, if i buy a GPU today for the same money i paid 2 years ago i get a card thats properly 30% faster.Nothing, thats a fast card for no money.