People being late for everything

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I thought this was an interesting read, especially the part about the dentist. Whenever I go to the dentist, doctors etc I am always waiting at least 20 minutes after my appointment. Even meetings at work people think nothing of being 5-10 minutes late so everyone has to sit around making pointless small talk.

Why do we put up with this? I'm sure this annoys the majority of people.

This post may offend some readers, recruiters or not. But only because it's going to cut close to the bone for many.

And I don't care if I sound old-fashioned, because actually it's nothing to do with 'fashion' or 'generation'. It's got everything to do with basic good manners and respect for other people.

So here goes... How did it get to be "OK" for people to be late for everything?

Because as far as I am concerned, it's not OK.

In recent years it seems that a meeting set to start at 9 am, for some people means in the general vicinity of any time which starts with the numeral '9'. Like 9.30 for example.

People drift in at 9.10 or 9.20, or even later. And they smile warmly at the waiting group, as they unwrap their bacon sandwich, apparently totally unconcerned that others have been there since five to nine, prepared and ready to start.

10 people kept waiting in a meeting for 20 minutes, while some selfish pratt who idles his way via the coffee shop, is actually 20 minutes times 10, which is 200 minutes wasted - while you keep us waiting because you did not catch the earlier bus. That is over 3 hours wasted. By you! How much has that cost the business? Shall I send you an invoice?

And an arrangement to meet someone for a business meeting at a coffee shop at 3 pm, more often than not means at 3.10 you get a text saying 'I am five minutes away' which inevitably means 10 minutes, and so you wait for 15 or 20 minutes, kicking your heels in frustration.

And often these 'latecomers' are people who have requested the meeting in the first place, are asking for your help, or are selling something. Fat chance mate!

And of course this has massive application to the recruitment industry, where lateness is both commonplace and hugely damaging to your personal and corporate brand.

And it's not only business.

Why do people, invited for a dinner party at 7.30, think it's cool to arrive at 8.30? It's rude. It's inconsiderate. And it's selfish, as I witnessed in a coffee shop near my home one weekend. Three "ladies who lunch" (a species not confined to, but heavily represented on, the lower North Shore of Sydney) were chatting loudly at the table next to me. One inquired what time the 'drinks do' was that night. The reply for all the world to hear was 'Oh 7.30, but we won't get there till 9 because by then it will have warmed up and all the interesting people will have arrived'. Nice. Imagine if everyone took that view. Cocktail parties would start at 3 am eventually.

Or a dinner at a restaurant where I was meeting two other couples. My wife was away, so I was flying solo. I arrived at two minutes to eight for an eight o'clock booking. At 8.20, I was into my second glass of Pinot and at half-past I got a text saying 'on the way'. We finally were all seated at 8.45. There were not even attempted excuses from either of the two couples, who seemed oblivious to the fact I might actually have got there at the agreed time. Meanwhile I had put a huge dent in the bottle of Pinot, and was ready to go home.

And it is not that we lead 'busy lives'. That's a given, we all do, and it's a cop out to use that as an excuse. It's simply that some people no longer even pretend that they think your time is as important as theirs. And technology makes it worse. It seems texting or emailing that you are late somehow means you are no longer late.

Rubbish.

You are rude. And inconsiderate.

And I act on it too. My dentist kept me waiting 50 minutes not long ago. For about the tenth time, I might add. I walked out, past a literally open-mouthed receptionist who had never seen a patient act on their frustration, only to get a frantic call from the dentist herself as I got into my car.

Sure she was "busy", another patient took longer than she expected, blah blah.

But hold on, I am busy too! I would not keep her waiting 50 minutes if she came to see me as a candidate. And yet I am HER customer. I told her I have been coming to you for 15 years but don't take me for granted. See fewer patients in a day if you have to, but see me on time or close to it. She has never kept me waiting again.

Me? Am I ever late? Sure, sometimes. That's inevitable even with the best intentions. But I never plan to be late. I never 'let time slide' because my stuff is more important than yours.

I am not talking about the odd occasion of lateness. I am talking about people who are routinely late. In fact, never on time. You know who I am talking about!

And certainly I consider serial lateness a character flaw which I take into account when working out who to promote, who to hire and who to count amongst my real friends.

It's that important.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-savage/lateness_b_4169441.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009
 
Lateness annoys me as well, I hate being late and get annoyed if something out of my control makes me late. The people who are just late to everything really annoy me.
 
I have (or had because i no longer bother) this issue with Friday night work meals. People would agree on 18:30 booking (finishing work at 18:00) but end up actually eating 20:30 by which time it's too little too late & basically raging at lack of food. So i agree to "lets meet up at 2100 after you've all eaten".
 
I hate it, "meet me at 6" I don't mean leave at 6 to meet me at 6:05 or 6:10, I mean ****ing 6.

Does my **** in, I should be allowed to shoot you for being constantly late.
 
I had a boss like that once, I often had to see his clients because he was late.

I occasionally had to reschedule his telephone meetings because he was running late, only to have him be late for the rescheduled call, then have a cup of tea, then make the call. Its embarrassing when they make you into a liar.
 
I hate it, "meet me at 6" I don't mean leave at 6 to meet me at 6:05 or 6:10, I mean ****ing 6.

Does my **** in, I should be allowed to shoot you for being constantly late.

if you told me 6:00 i'd be there at 5:45, or at least outside ready to head in at 5:59. Being too early can be rude in some circumstance too.
 
In my group of friends we had one that was always late for everything, almost an hour every time so if we were going somewhere as a group, if it started at 7:30 , we'd tell him 6, then he'd be there at 7 waiting for us.
 
I would settle for people being late every day of the week if it meant I didn't have to witness idiots trying to kill themselves and oncoming traffic. People would literally rather die than be late it seems.
 
I will actively try and be early to everything I go to. With work it's easy as I usually travel to meetings on my own or I am the driver so people work to my schedule. This is never a problem as there is always some where to stop for a coffee etc if there is plenty of time.

Personnel life is more difficult as the misses finds it practicably impossible to be on time for anything despite my best intentions. Drives me up the wall at times :p
 
My old boss used to be horrible for this. Meeting with a client at 10am, agreed to meet at 9:30am so we can go through the agenda before meeting the client, boss turns up at 10:05am.

Waste of freakin' time. :(
 
My gf is like this - it really winds me up!

Actually, I should say "used to be", she got the hint when I'd start leaving without her to go places if she wasn't ready in time XD

If I have a meeting within someone, I tend to give them 5-10 minutes and then I'll get on with something else and re-schedule. Unless you've a good excuse, if you can't be bothered to turn up on time, it obviously wasn't that important to you in the first place.
 
What's almost worse is the number of managers who will allow their staff to be late. It really annoys me when my boss doesn't sanction those people who are constantly late. Not getting hung up when a normally punctual and reliable member of staff is late once in a while is fair enough, but when it becomes a habit then it's a managers job to deal with it. Otherwise you condone the behaviour of the chronically late, and cause resentment amongst the staff who manage to make it in on time. Particularly when one member of staff can't leave until their relief arrives.
 
My old boss used to be horrible for this. Meeting with a client at 10am, agreed to meet at 9:30am so we can go through the agenda before meeting the client, boss turns up at 10:05am.

Waste of freakin' time. :(

yep, big bosses tend to expect to waft in at whatever time they choose :cool:
 
If it's something to do with work then I'll be early but if it's a party then I'm not. No body goes early to a party do they?
 
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The people that are always late because they yack so much BS at their previous meeting, and think they're big bosses and are therefore allowed to be casual with their timings are the ones I can't stand.
 
The phrase 'fashionably late' is what really does my head in. I've never met one person in my life who has any excuse whatsoever to be 'fashionably late'.
 
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