Road Cycling Essentials

[grudas]

Just found this:
https://tapiriik.com

Upload to Garmin and it can sync to:
- Strava
- Endomondo
- Runkeeper
- Create backups in your Dropbox
- Sportstracks

Free to manually sync or $2 for 1 year auto syncing. Just tried it and it's backed up all my Garmin connect rides to dropbox.

woop! massive thanks for this! was looking for a way to sync my strava workouts to endomondo with its stupid one file-per-upload thing.

 

[ShiWarrior]

Does the ant+ stick show up as a device on your computer at all? Either with or without the driver installed?

yep

says its a moviestick mini
got the exclamation mark sign

EDIT//

fixed it
Thanks

 

[Razor-BladE]

Haven't even gone onto the road yet and I've just dropped another £90!
Getting the Topeak Joe Blow Sport II pump from Halfords for £27, and managed to find a pair of Vittoria Zaffiro Pro tyres for £12 each.

Edit: Well, I haven't quite bought the tyres yet. Trying to decide whether the red ones will look ok with the red Triban 3, or whether I should just stick to black?

 

[Vonhelmet]

Extra 5w for matching tyres. Further 2w if the valve caps match.

 

[uniQ]

Haven't even gone onto the road yet and I've just dropped another £90!
Getting the Topeak Joe Blow Sport II pump from Halfords for £27, and managed to find a pair of Vittoria Zaffiro Pro tyres for £12 each.

Edit: Well, I haven't quite bought the tyres yet. Trying to decide whether the red ones will look ok with the red Triban 3, or whether I should just stick to black?

Stick to black. They have remove the 'good' parts of a tyre to add the coloured stuff.

 

[Vonhelmet]

Stick to black. They have remove the 'good' parts of a tyre to add the coloured stuff.

More seriously then... How much do coloured sidewalks matter? Obviously if coloured rubber is worse then you don't want it in the face of the tyre that's actually touching the road, but what about the sides?

 

[Razor-BladE]

Extra 5w for matching tyres. Further 2w if the valve caps match.

Tyres are as far as I would go!

Stick to black. They have remove the 'good' parts of a tyre to add the coloured stuff.

Are you thinking of the Rubino range? Because the coloured parts are two strips either side of the centre, but the whole of the tyre is coloured for the Zaffiro tyres.
Edit: Oh, or do you mean chemically rather than physical differences.

 

[grudas]

I'll post a pic of when my triban was red with red tires in 20 mins! Same tires too.

 

[Razor-BladE]

^ Awesome, will hold off buying for a little bit then.

 

[uniQ]

Are you thinking of the Rubino range? Because the coloured parts are two strips either side of the centre, but the whole of the tyre is coloured for the Zaffiro tyres.
Edit: Oh, or do you mean chemically rather than physical differences.

The black compound contains carbon. Carbon is black, The coloured stuff replaces the carbon w/ Silica which is harder and doesn't last as long.

More seriously then... How much do coloured sidewalks matter? Obviously if coloured rubber is worse then you don't want it in the face of the tyre that's actually touching the road, but what about the sides?

I haven't noticed any coloured sidewalks lately tbh but Jobst puts it best way back in 1998

Colored tread is a fad and fashion statement. This becomes apparent
when the makers put different rubber on the center of the tire than at
the sides, some use black in the center others use colored. Their
explanations diverge enogh to makes these marketing ploys obvious to
the wary observer. You need maximum traction upright when braking
hard into a turn and you need maximum traction when you are leaning
hard in that turn. Now where do you think that leaves room for two
kinds of rubber, wear durability being greatly subordinate to good
traction?

http://yarchive.net/bike/tire_color.html

 

[Vonhelmet]

Sidewalks? Cursed iPod auto spelling.

 

[Razor-BladE]

Interesting read. But I do have to ask whether there's going to be a noticeable difference in modern times? As you have already said Jobst first reply is from 1998 and he's using information from years before. 15+ years is a long time to improve the chemical structure of coloured tyres. Not to say that they are on par (or they could be) with normal tyres, but the difference gap between them could be almost nil?
And in terms of general performance/durability, tyres nowadays are probably better than from 1998 so relatively speaking, for most casual users (like myself) the slightly reduced durability and traction when wet is not going to be significant?

 

[Saytan]

How many coloured tyres do you see in the pro peloton?

 

[grudas]

^ Awesome, will hold off buying for a little bit then.

there you go -;

looks a bit different now.. lol.

Interesting read. But I do have to ask whether there's going to be a noticeable difference in modern times? As you have already said Jobst first reply is from 1998 and he's using information from years before. 15+ years is a long time to improve the chemical structure of coloured tyres. Not to say that they are on par (or they could be) with normal tyres, but the difference gap between them could be almost nil?
And in terms of general performance/durability, tyres nowadays are probably better than from 1998 so relatively speaking, for most casual users (like myself) the slightly reduced durability and traction when wet is not going to be significant?

to add.. I haven't personally noticed any difference in durability/grip going from red to black version of the same tyre

 

[uniQ]

The materials haven't changed that much but you can easily find more recent articles, especially if you look at the auto industry.

At first silica seemed to be the magic elixir tire engineers longed for, but they soon realized it too offered no free ride: its lower rolling resistance came at the expense of lower durability, decreased traction in wet weather...

And low rolling resistance doesn't have that much to do with grip, nor is it necessary for a tire with low rolling resistance to resist deformation (and that's not how the high silica tires are doing it):

As much as 90 percent of a tire’s rolling resistance can be attributed to hysteresis--the dissipation of energy that occurs when the tread, sidewalls, and carcass of a tire are deformed as the tire rolls. The remaining 10 percent of resistance results from aerodynamic drag and the friction between the tire and the ground and between the tire and the rim.

Tires with low rolling resistance are ones which give back the energy which is put into them when they are deformed in the first place, as a good steel spring would, say-- a property known as low hysteresis.

But the choice is yours, you wan't a bit of colour in your tyres? Go nuts

 

[Lakeland]

Very interesting!

 

[Vonhelmet]

How many coloured tyres do you see in the pro peloton?

How many of us ride at a level where what pros do is of any relevance

 

[Razor-BladE]

Thanks for the pics grudas.
Hmm.. I like the red strips on the Rubino tyres, but I'm not so sure about Zaffiro. (Yes I'm picky!)
I'm going to go with the black 25mm tyres. That took far far longer to decide than I wanted lol.

 

[grudas]

Thanks for the pics grudas.
Hmm.. I like the red strips on the Rubino tyres, but I'm not so sure about Zaffiro. (Yes I'm picky!)
I'm going to go with the black 25mm tyres. That took far far longer to decide than I wanted lol.

yeah just go with black rubber red didn't really look good even thought I thought it would due to red frame.. but it was a bit too much

 

[touch]

Just for you uniQ, i put the power meter on my bike today.
On the turbo with my HR monitor, power meter and speed/cadence sensor on, so you can see all the numbers. Nothing particularly interesting though, still riding in zone2 (trying to stick to 127-140bpm).

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