Innocent man burned to death after being branded a paedophile.

Three police officers have now been suspended over the incident, and are under investigation. Three more are being investigated but have not been suspended. Six civilian call handlers are also being investigated.

Source (Telegraph).

It seems that the guy made numerous pleas for help to the police in the days and hours leading up to his death, but no action was taken.

That's even worse :(

If it's found out his pleas for help went ignored because these people heard him say along the lines of "these people think I'm a paedo, help" and they thus also assumed he didn't deserve any help....
 
No it doesn't
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_castration
compare that with the alternative scenario of an uncastrated paedophile.

What solution would you prefer?

yes it does
. Life-threatening side effects are rare, but some users show increases in body fat and reduced bone density, which increase long-term risk of cardiovascular disease and osteoporosis. They may also experience gynecomastia (development of larger than normal mammary glands in males),[6][7] reduced body hair,[8] and loss of muscle mass.[9]

along with the usual depressive side effects of low testosterone and unbalanced hormones.
 
yes it does,
along with the usual depressive side effects of low testosterone and unbalanced hormones.
Did you read any of that?
Hardly important symptoms, I've had more life threatening side effects from eating a chocolate bunny.

Compare that against doing nothing for people with this condition and it's a no brainer IMO
 
hardly important symptoms???

seriously osteoporosis and growing pair of **** not important: /

maybe read up on the damage this treatment did to Mr Turing.

how about you bitslice how do we know you're not harboring fantasies about being a rapist? should we castrate you too?
 
hardly important symptoms???

seriously osteoporosis and growing pair of **** not important: /
Drink milk and wear a bra, oh noes people will die by the million, being afflicted with paedophilia is clearly so much better than those horrible, horrible symptoms :rolleyes:

What do you think is being used right now to treat people, green M&M's?

have a look
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...tion-paedophiles-sex-offenders_n_1341112.html


how about you bitslice how do we know you're not harboring fantasies about being a rapist? should we castrate you too?

So rather than answer a question I've posed twice now, you'd rather make stupid comments? :rolleyes:
I can't be bothered continuing this, night.
 
yes it does


along with the usual depressive side effects of low testosterone and unbalanced hormones.

It seems a far smaller list of side effects than most prescribed medicines tbh...

maybe read up on the damage this treatment did to Mr Turing.

What a surprise you pull Turing out as your example... maybe update yourself on the information available in that the theory he committed suicide through depression from his treatment is very questionable.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18561092
 
What a surprise you pull Turing out as your example... maybe update yourself on the information available in that the theory he committed suicide through depression from his treatment is very questionable.

who said anything about his depression, you should check how he went from an icnredabile level of athletic performance (not far of record times i marathons) to a bloated mess.

It seems a far smaller list of side effects than most prescribed medicines tbh...

it will have all the usual side effects of hormone therapies (which are massive) those are just the severe risk ones. feel free to pin yourself full of estrogen if its so safe....
 
yes it does


along with the usual depressive side effects of low testosterone and unbalanced hormones.

I can attest to this. Having had testicular cancer resulting in one being removed and the other being zapped with radiotherapy, I need hormone replacement gel every day to reduce the risk of long term health issues. But it doesn't work completely and you're still left constantly tired, put on weight, lose muscle mass and have periods of depression.
 
hardly important symptoms???

seriously osteoporosis and growing pair of **** not important: /

maybe read up on the damage this treatment did to Mr Turing.

how about you bitslice how do we know you're not harboring fantasies about being a rapist? should we castrate you too?

If they are a convicted paedo, then the permanent psychological damage done to their victim(s) outweighs the potential side effects and risks cause by the chemical castration treatment intended to stop them committing more crimes.

As for the argument you used towards bitslice, grow the **** up. He may as well turn around and say "Youre defending chemical castration of paedos, are you a paedo". Kids stuff.
 
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who said anything about his depression, you should check how he went from an icnredabile level of athletic performance (not far of record times i marathons) to a bloated mess.

Weight gain, check
Grew breasts, check

The two side effects mentioned, and to be as pedantic as you like to be, two is hardly numerous.

Can you provide any evidence for the 'numerous' mental health issues it causes too?

feel free to pin yourself full of estrogen if its so safe....

Lol, what a stupid thing to say. Please show me where I said it was 'safe' or did I say it just had less side effects than a lot of prescribed medication?

Lets look a Paroxetine, a common anti-depressent and one I have unfortunately taken for a period of time previously.

Very common (affect more than 1 in 10 people)

Nausea.
Sexual problems.

Common (affect between 1 in 10 and 1 in 100 people)

Decreased appetite.
Raised levels of cholesterol in the blood.
Sleepiness.
Difficulty in sleeping (insomnia).
Abnormal dreams and nightmares.
Dizziness.
Agitation.
Shaking, usually of the hands (tremor).
Headache.
Blurred vision.
Yawning.
Disturbances of the gut such as diarrhoea, constipation, vomiting and dry mouth.
Weakness or loss of strength (asthenia).
Sweating.
Weight gain.

Uncommon (affect between 1 in 100 and 1 in 1000 people)

Confusion.
Hallucinations.
Abnormal bleeding, usually in the skin and seen as bruises.
Skin reactions such as rash and itch.
Faster than normal heart beat (tachycardia).
Changes in blood pressure.

Rare (affect between 1 in 1000 and 1 in 10,000 people)

Convulsions.
Anxiety and panic attacks.
Mania.
Unpleasant or distressing restlessness and inability to sit still (akathisia - see warning section above).
Restless legs syndrome.
Decreased level of sodium in the blood (mostly in elderly people).

Very rare (affect less than 1 in 10,000 people)

Decreased numbers of platelets in the blood (thrombocytopenia).
Acute glaucoma.
Liver disorders.
Bleeding in the gut.
Persistent painful erection of the penis (priapism).
Allergic reaction involving swelling of the face, throat, lips or tongue (angioedema).

The side effects listed above may not include all of the side effects reported by the medicine's manufacturer.
 
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If they are a convicted paedo...

A sentence truly deserving to the mob mentality that attributed to this murder. 'being a paedo' is not a criminal offence, invalidating 'convicted', and proving a character trait such as sexual attraction with certainty is legally implausible without confession, and even then subject to doubt.
 
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Can you provide any evidence for the 'numerous' mental health issues it causes too.

Objectively speaking, I would say that being chemically castrated against your will would cause at least a few of mental health issues related to lack of normal sexual function, and watching your body change from what you have known all your life.

However, considering that theoretically it would now only be used for people committing heinous sex crimes, then imo it's a small price to pay if it stops another child being hurt.
 
However, considering that theoretically it would now only be used for people committing heinous sex crimes, then imo it's a small price to pay if it stops another child being hurt.

I don't have an issue with chemical castration being employed for people who have actually committed child abuse, and are considered at risk of doing so again.

I do have issue with those who are advocating its use for people who are only suspected of having sexual thoughts about under-age girls/boys and have never acted on them. To those I again pose the question: How exactly do you plan on "catching" these people? A Government-sanctioned annual "paedo test"?

The fact is that we live in a society where we punish abnormal behaviour - not abnormal thoughts. If we start chemically castrating people who have not committed any crime then that's a very, very dangerous road. Quite apart from the human rights implications, chemically castrating someone puts them very much in the "abnormal" box, and precludes any chance at a normal life.
 
I don't have an issue with chemical castration being employed for people who have actually committed child abuse, and are considered at risk of doing so again.

I do have issue with those who are advocating its use for people who are only suspected of having sexual thoughts about under-age girls/boys and have never acted on them.

Anyone who advocated it simply for thought crime is an idiot. If so, I would have been tried for murder long ago.
 
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