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780Ti official review thread

Put it this way - if nVidia had a £230 GTX780 at R9 290 launch i'd have probably snapped that up instead based on reviews. I just don't feel their price cut on the 780 especially goes far enough.

The Ti is a different beast as the fastest single GPU card has always commanded a premium, but compared to the 290 variants it's still just a bit off where it should be IMHO. :)
 
I have to disagree on the 780 price cut. How it was and how it is, just makes the 780 that much more tempting. I am not getting into what brand is better or worserererer but the 290X was released and this is taking on the 780. You could even go as far as taking on the Titan but in AMD's words, they said "We are aiming for the 780" (maybe slightly different), so for the launch, the 290X got a bad rap because of the cooler and temps (rightly or wrongly, I don't care).

Straight away Nvidia drop the price of the 780 to under the 290X and chuck in 3 top AAA titles to make the deal sweeter.

A week later, the 290 is launched and what a launch, it is so good, it makes the 290X look rubbish in comparison. So we have the 290 that is the 7950 bargain of last gen butttttttttttt the 7950 was ~£200 and the 290 is £300, so now it doesn't look so tempting and especially with the rap of the cooler/noise.

AMD had the 7970/50 with the games and I couldn't recommend an Nvidia card unless they specifically said they wanted Nvidia.

Nvidia have the 780 with the games and for top end, I have to recommend that (unless someone is water cooling but still the 780 is cheaper and has games).

When the 290 has custom coolers, I can see all change but as we are now, I feel the 780 is the card, with the 780ti being the fastest card out and for the guys who are not on a budget, that card is a must have.
 
I knew ti was coming today but bought 2 780's yesterday anyway. Dont see the price falling further by any significance for a while on the 780. 2 780's ghz editions cost £840 including 2 copies of each of the 3 games with the cards. So we can take off £120 and they should work out at £720. I should get £200 for my sli 580's so i might be able to get costs down to £520.

Considering the evga ti thats coming is sitting at £659.99, i think i made the right choice.
 
It doesn't really matter where AMD said they were targetting - the 780 clearly competes with the standard 290 whereas the 290X trades blows with the Titan.

AMD also bundle games with the 290 that increase the value of the card.

Hence the 780 should be a good £50-£75 cheaper than where it is. Unless you think the alleged cooler quality is worth that.
 
MjFrosty said:
If the 780GTX is competing with the 290 pro as suggested, the GTX wins hands down.
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Because of 290 Pro's crappy stock cooler (again) no doubt?

Existing performance is no worse than the GTX780 (better in fact but lots of people refuse to accept), and future potential performance is far better.

And then features...I know it's down to everyone's personal preference, but Mantle would start rolling out next month...when is G-sync gonna hit mainstream?

Don't get me wrong...as it stands, I'm leaning toward the 290 Pro over GTX780 at the moment, however, if there are decent 21:9 monitors with G-sync support out, and the support for G-sync by Nvidia is available next month, I would buy both the monitor and a GTX780. The problem is as much as I would like to try G-Sync, the support for it and supporting monitors won't be available until much later next year, so I would rather get a 290 Pro for now, and then next year when G-Sync support and monitors are available, then I'd get the next gen Nvidia 20nm card.
 
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Marine-RX179 said:
Because of 290 Pro's crappy stock cooler (again) no doubt?

Existing performance is no worse than the GTX780 (better in fact but lots of people refuse to accept), and future potential performance is far better.

And then features...I know it's down to everyone's personal preference, but Mantle would start rolling out next month...when is G-sync gonna hit mainstream?

Don't get me wrong...as it stands, I'm leaning toward the 290 Pro over GTX780 at the moment, however, if there are decent 21:9 monitors with G-sync support out, and the support for G-sync by Nvidia is available next month, I would buy both the monitor and a GTX780. The problem is as much as I would like to try G-Sync, the support for it and supporting monitors won't be available until much later next year, so I would rather get a 290 Pro for now, and then play with G-Sync next year get next gen Nvidia 20nm cards instead.
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You can't argue with 8packs results. Although the 290 is already faster than the 780, once it gets off that reference cooler it will pull further clear.


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German review.

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Although the additional smoothing erfodert more power, it creates the GeForce GTX 780 Ti even the most demanding Crysis 3 in 2560x1440 just so fluid present (32.4 fps). So that it is 15 percent, the standard GTX 780 (28.2 fps) and on par with the Radeon 290X R9 (in performance mode). Even in Metro: Last Light, the two flagships at a level and let the older (but much cheaper) Radeon HD 7950 Boost and GeForce GTX 760 with almost 90 percent lead behind. A look at Max Payne 3 shows how much the performance is affected by the anti-aliasing. Without anti-aliasing here expect the most high-end cards almost equally fast. With four times the smoothed edge distances are greater. Now the Geforce GTX 780 Ti comes in Full HD (68.0 fps) to third place and placed behind the Radeon 290X R9 (76.5 fps).
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Source
http://www.gamestar.de/hardware/gra.../nvidia_geforce_gtx_780_ti,749,3029777,3.html
 
LtMatt said:
Which ones?
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The worst are Max Payne 3, Crysis 3 and Anno 2070

If we pretend for a minute that the GTX 690 was a single core card it would pack 16 SMX Modules v 15 on the 780ti, 2gb of vram running slower than the 3gb on the 780ti and a core clock of 915mhz v 876mhz on the 780ti. Or putting it another way there is not a huge difference in the specs of the cards. Now if we throw into the mix that the GTX 690 being dual core has to deal with sli scaling, I think it is fair to say something does not look right with those graphs.

If we also remember that the GTX 690 is about 20% faster than a stock Titan, this should be greatly reduced when up against a 780ti.
 
Kaapstad said:
The worst are Max Payne 3, Crysis 3 and Anno 2070

If we pretend for a minute that the GTX 690 was a single core card it would pack 16 SMX Modules v 15 on the 780ti, 2gb of vram running slower than the 3gb on the 780ti and a core clock of 915mhz v 876mhz on the 780ti. Or putting it another way there is not a huge difference in the specs of the cards. Now if we throw into the mix that the GTX 690 being dual core has to deal with sli scaling, I think it is fair to say something does not look right with those graphs.

If we also remember that the GTX 690 is about 20% faster than a stock Titan, this should be greatly reduced when up against a 780ti.
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Techpowerup has the 690 10% faster than the 780TI as an average.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Because of 290 Pro's crappy stock cooler (again) no doubt?

Existing performance is no worse than the GTX780 (better in fact but lots of people refuse to accept), and future potential performance is far better.

And then features...I know it's down to everyone's personal preference, but Mantle would start rolling out next month...when is G-sync gonna hit mainstream?

Don't get me wrong...as it stands, I'm leaning toward the 290 Pro over GTX780 at the moment, however, if there are decent 21:9 monitors with G-sync support out, and the support for G-sync by Nvidia is available next month, I would buy both the monitor and a GTX780. The problem is as much as I would like to try G-Sync, the support for it and supporting monitors won't be available until much later next year, so I would rather get a 290 Pro for now, and then next year when G-Sync support and monitors are available, then I'd get the next gen Nvidia 20nm card.
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290 pro performance is astounding, it beats the Titan in Eyefinity for crying out loud! :)! But at what cost...it has the traits that make me unsure on whether I'd recommend the 290X, but exaggerated further.

Three 290s under water would be blistering, but personally I find it hard to recommend it on that basis as majority won't be putting them under water. It almost defys the point of having a reasonably priced card if you're having to spend out on watercooling.

I'd skip the 290 and pay the extra for the 290X every day of the week given the choice.
 
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Gregster said:
So we have the 290 that is the 7950 bargain of last gen butttttttttttt the 7950 was ~£200 and the 290 is £300, so now it doesn't look so tempting and especially with the rap of the cooler/noise.
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This is a valid point which again put the Nvidia value into context because generation price creep on the 290 is small compared to the inflation Nvidia is levying on its higher end products.

They are all overpriced.
 
MjFrosty said:
290 pro performance is astounding, it beats the Titan in Eyefinity for crying out loud! :)! But at what cost...it has the traits that make me unsure on whether I'd recommend the 290X, but exaggerated further.

Three 290s under water would be blistering, but personally I find it hard to recommend it on that basis as majority won't be putting them under water. It almost defys the point of having a reasonably priced card if you're having to spend out on watercooling.

I'd skip the 290 and pay the extra for the 290X every day of the week given the choice.
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Good thing for us, those that has the patient could always wait for the manufacturers custom cooled cards :)
 
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