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Leprechaun312 said:
yes...balanced, guessing you're still not sleeping if your posting at 5:58 in the morning :D
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Point is that the T54 possibly bounces more shots than other tanks of its class, however the gun is not as good as either the E50 or the M46 Patton (or the Centurion or Lorraine or WZ-120). Take the whole tank into consideration, not just the armouring.
 
Leprechaun312 said:
yes...balanced, guessing you're still not sleeping if your posting at 5:58 in the morning :D
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I slept yesterday from around 8.30pm and awoke at 4am. Couldnt get back to sleep.

linktoinsanity said:
Point is that the T54 possibly bounces more shots than other tanks of its class, however the gun is not as good as either the E50 or the M46 Patton (or the Centurion or Lorraine or WZ-120). Take the whole tank into consideration, not just the armouring.
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Gun is not as good based on your opinion you mean. I never find my self wishing I had a different gun on the T-54. I prefer a typical fast firing medium gun than a slow derpy gun. Not to mention the T-54 has 2 top guns so you can choose whats more important. Its also fastest excluding the lorraine (maybe the patton, dunno what the speed is like on that). I think it has the best camo as well, smaller profile (even compared to the WZ-120). I find the turret (despite having a little less armour than the 120) bounces more as it has more of a slope on it. Its also got smaller commander hatches. It also has the classic russian passive ability of sometimes absorbing shells into the tracks. I think you should "Take the whole tank into consideration, not just the armouring".

Statistically it has the best recent and overall win % of all the t9 mediums on noobmeter so at the very least it is the best t9 medium tank not to mention its played far more than all of the rest of them. Don't forget heatspam as well.

If it has the best armour logically and for balance purposes shouldn't it be the slowest?
 
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Howdy all!

Decided I'm going to update the game tonight and see whats changed in the past few months. Any major changes I should know about?

I see a new German TD lines released? How do they perform as the armour looks paper thin?
 
Silent UK said:
Howdy all!

Decided I'm going to update the game tonight and see whats changed in the past few months. Any major changes I should know about?

I see a new German TD lines released? How do they perform as the armour looks paper thin?
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do not be in the firing line of the tier 10 waffle tractor if it has ammo.

apart from that take the others down as soon as they are spotted as they all have nice guns when fully upgraded.

and if you see one of the tier 9 or 10 ones hiding behind a rock or building a good player will come out backwards as the gun is really far at the back like batchats do so take note of which way they are facing and aim for the side at the rear of the tank.
 
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I'm going to try and get on later tonight. My rage has just about subsided from my last session, two weeks ago... A waste of a prem account but I needed a break!
 
Delboy said:
Gotta love weekend retard games....

http://wotreplays.com/site/429316
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No
Don't wanna cause an argument but anyone who sits at the back while their team gets slaughtered is going to do massive damage (in comparison to everyone else) when the enemy then moves in to kill the last few. Yes you did nice damage but if you had helped on one of the flanks you would have had a better chance of winning.

Sitting in the middle you can not hit the enemy until they have killed 1 of the flanks & pushed over the bridge. If however you helped hold a flank (from the back still, not spotted) then you can hit the enemy & stop them getting over the bridge and stop them from killing your team. Yes 1 flank would have still gone down, but you could probably have won that game.

The more of the team that camp around the castle, the more likely it is you'll lose. Even if those campers have good damage. Anyone can sit at the back and get nice damage, but it's useless once the team has been mostly killed off already.
 
So who is leaving WoT for War Thunder: Ground Forces in the near future?

WoT is a very grindy and wallet warrior game... I'm interested to see the competition, WT planes were certainly fun!
 
Puppetmaster said:
I slept yesterday from around 8.30pm and awoke at 4am. Couldnt get back to sleep.



Gun is not as good based on your opinion you mean. I never find my self wishing I had a different gun on the T-54. I prefer a typical fast firing medium gun than a slow derpy gun. Not to mention the T-54 has 2 top guns so you can choose whats more important. Its also fastest excluding the lorraine (maybe the patton, dunno what the speed is like on that). I think it has the best camo as well, smaller profile (even compared to the WZ-120). I find the turret (despite having a little less armour than the 120) bounces more as it has more of a slope on it. Its also got smaller commander hatches. It also has the classic russian passive ability of sometimes absorbing shells into the tracks. I think you should "Take the whole tank into consideration, not just the armouring".

Statistically it has the best recent and overall win % of all the t9 mediums on noobmeter so at the very least it is the best t9 medium tank not to mention its played far more than all of the rest of them. Don't forget heatspam as well.

If it has the best armour logically and for balance purposes shouldn't it be the slowest?
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The statistic comment is slightly flawed. Yes, it has the best stats on noobmeter for the last four weeks. - however, this is a very limited picture. For example, on the Russian server it's the lowest performing T9 MT (And the games played for it on that server dwarfs the EU server....)

Thing is Puppet, you really need to get out of the mentality that because you perform well in a tank, it's OP. There are a lot of tanks in this game, that when played correctly, they perform very well - however, that doesn't make them OP. You're a decent player, who has the ability to work out a tanks strengths and weaknesses, and play it accordingly.

The T54 is a brawler, and it serves that role well. The E50 on the other hand, while it can perform a brawling role to a decent standard, is also awesome as a sniping tank. Try to do that in a T54, and you'll have limited success.
 
no_1_dave said:
No
Don't wanna cause an argument but anyone who sits at the back while their team gets slaughtered is going to do massive damage (in comparison to everyone else) when the enemy then moves in to kill the last few. Yes you did nice damage but if you had helped on one of the flanks you would have had a better chance of winning.

Sitting in the middle you can not hit the enemy until they have killed 1 of the flanks & pushed over the bridge. If however you helped hold a flank (from the back still, not spotted) then you can hit the enemy & stop them getting over the bridge and stop them from killing your team. Yes 1 flank would have still gone down, but you could probably have won that game.

The more of the team that camp around the castle, the more likely it is you'll lose. Even if those campers have good damage. Anyone can sit at the back and get nice damage, but it's useless once the team has been mostly killed off already.
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Yeah your right, it was all my fault. I should have pushed one of the flanks with say, the IS8 who did no damage. Thanks for the advice.
 
The thing is nuttah, you really need to get it out of your head that every tank you play isnt overpowered or hasn't been in the past. I mean you tried to argue that the T57 was worse than the 50b, despite the fact everything bar one stat is better just because you play the T57 and don't play the 50b.

Re the T54:

It has the highest win % of recent and overall.

Using your logic, comparing the T-54 to the WZ-120 (which is a similiar tank, which has a gun more suited to brawling), the T-54 is much better at brawling, midrange fighting and sniping. So that means the tank has "more power" than the WZ-120. I feel it is too strong because it is easy to play and to me is clear that it is much better than the WZ-120 and is able to live much longer. It can reliably bounce things too much for a medium tank that is one of the fastest. If people can't play tanks properly doesnt make them balanced or underpowered, they just are not good enough.

Let me ask you a question, do you feel that the T-54 is pefectly balanced and offers no advantage over other mediums? Also by your logic just because some people can play the WTE100 and do well, it isnt overpowered because not everyone can average 3.5 - 4k averge damage.
 
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Delboy said:
Yeah your right, it was all my fault. I should have pushed one of the flanks with say, the IS8 who did no damage. Thanks for the advice.
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So you really think sitting in the middle and doing 90% of your damage after half your team was killed when you could have helped them was the right thing to do? Then you blame the team and call them "polish morons". Yes a lot of them were morons but you didn't really help when it mattered. Nice damage, but too late :rolleyes:

Don't get me wrong. I screw up as well, far from perfect.
Yesterday if I had capped my team would have won. However I chose to go after their IS-7. I didn't think of 2 things. 1) He was firing gold and 2) He would ammo rack me. I assumed because I had better pen & faster firing gun plus more HP it would be easy like it normally is. I also wanted the kill... My team lost. I swore and said sorry :(
 
no_1_dave said:
So you really think sitting in the middle and doing 90% of your damage after half your team was killed when you could have helped them was the right thing to do? Then you blame the team and call them "polish morons". Yes a lot of them were morons but you didn't really help when it mattered. Nice damage, but too late :rolleyes:

Don't get me wrong. I screw up as well, far from perfect.
Yesterday if I had capped my team would have won. However I chose to go after their IS-7. I didn't think of 2 things. 1) He was firing gold and 2) He would ammo rack me. I assumed because I had better pen & faster firing gun plus more HP it would be easy like it normally is. I also wanted the kill... My team lost. I swore and said sorry :(
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To be fair this is what I see a lot of unicum players doing, sitting in the middle racking up damage then finishing off the remaining enemy on low health. So it's a legitimate tactic if you can pull it off. (I haven't watched any of the replays in this thread).
 
Rojin said:
To be fair this is what I see a lot of unicum players doing, sitting in the middle racking up damage then finishing off the remaining enemy on low health. So it's a legitimate tactic if you can pull it off. (I haven't watched any of the replays in this thread).
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It can work on the correct map and if where you are sat you can get the damage while helping your team.
The replay in question shows the majority of the damage being done once half the team is dead and the enemy are starting up their steamrollers.
 
no_1_dave said:
It can work on the correct map and if where you are sat you can get the damage while helping your team.
The replay in question shows the majority of the damage being done once half the team is dead and the enemy are starting up their steamrollers.
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No, what I see a lot is the decent player taking the odd sniping shot but not racking up loads of damage. Then once half their team is down and the other team starts to push with much reduced health, they then proceed to clean up. Of course if half their team died without doing any damage the tactic backfires :D
 
craptakular said:
So who is leaving WoT for War Thunder: Ground Forces in the near future?

WoT is a very grindy and wallet warrior game... I'm interested to see the competition, WT planes were certainly fun!
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I liked War Thunder for about 5 minutes, then the novelty wore off. Ground forces looks interesting, although the arcade play they have shown off doesn't appeal to me. Historic battles could be interesting though?
 
Silent UK said:
That happened to me but my break lasted several months!
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First 4 games, 4 losses. Then a win, but a one sided win... I nearly logged out for some BF4 but the sadist in me kept playing. I think I managed to get a 50% won rate for the night but I don't know how!
 
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