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no_1_dave said:
No
Don't wanna cause an argument but anyone who sits at the back while their team gets slaughtered is going to do massive damage (in comparison to everyone else) when the enemy then moves in to kill the last few. Yes you did nice damage but if you had helped on one of the flanks you would have had a better chance of winning.

Sitting in the middle you can not hit the enemy until they have killed 1 of the flanks & pushed over the bridge. If however you helped hold a flank (from the back still, not spotted) then you can hit the enemy & stop them getting over the bridge and stop them from killing your team. Yes 1 flank would have still gone down, but you could probably have won that game.

The more of the team that camp around the castle, the more likely it is you'll lose. Even if those campers have good damage. Anyone can sit at the back and get nice damage, but it's useless once the team has been mostly killed off already.
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just pointing this out, you are creating an argument. Even if he had pushed a flank it wouldn't ahve matter, the rest of his team all did about 400 damage each, that is effectively two penetrating hits. It wasn't his fault, the team was a bit retarded and an is8 that does zero damage.... that doesnt help matters
 
Puppetmaster said:
The thing is nuttah, you really need to get it out of your head that every tank you play isnt overpowered or hasn't been in the past. I mean you tried to argue that the T57 was worse than the 50b, despite the fact everything bar one stat is better just because you play the T57 and don't play the 50b.
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No. It's because I'm not blinded by what all the whingers say on the forums. The fact of the matter is, that mobility on an autoloader is a massive plus point. The 50B has that mobility, the T57 does not. With regards to if that mobility is preferred over a 5 second quicker reload, and marginally better armour (which, let's face it, makes no difference at T10 anyway) could be discussed.

Puppetmaster said:
Re the T54:

It has the highest win % of recent and overall.
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Based on noobmeter? As previously mentioned, this is not a fair representation. On the Russian server, it's the worst performing T9 medium. It's better on the EU server, I agree, but even on there it's only a touch better than most of the others.

Puppetmaster said:
Using your logic, comparing the T-54 to the WZ-120 (which is a similiar tank, which has a gun more suited to brawling), the T-54 is much better at brawling, midrange fighting and sniping. So that means the tank has "more power" than the WZ-120. I feel it is too strong because it is easy to play and to me is clear that it is much better than the WZ-120 and is able to live much longer. It can reliably bounce things too much for a medium tank that is one of the fastest. If people can't play tanks properly doesnt make them balanced or underpowered, they just are not good enough.

Let me ask you a question, do you feel that the T-54 is pefectly balanced and offers no advantage over other mediums? Also by your logic just because some people can play the WTE100 and do well, it isnt overpowered because not everyone can average 3.5 - 4k averge damage.
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Take a look at the stats of the people in our clan for the T54, and then look at the stats for other T9 mediums for the same players? I don't see the T54 standing out, in fact, for myself it's way below some of them. What does this tell you?

Your a good player, could it just be that your success in the T54 is because of this and that it suits your play style? Perhaps we could even go as far to say that the T54 offers the good player more opportunity to shine then other T9 mediums, but does that make it OP? No.
 
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Leprechaun312 said:
just pointing this out, you are creating an argument. Even if he had pushed a flank it wouldn't ahve matter, the rest of his team all did about 400 damage each, that is effectively two penetrating hits. It wasn't his fault, the team was a bit retarded and an is8 that does zero damage.... that doesnt help matters
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I was not looking to create an argument, I was just trying to put my point across that in that replay yes the team were idiots but sitting in that exact place next to the castle is also not a helpful thing to do. The only real shots you can get from there are of people already crossing the bridges and by then 90% of the time it is too late and you will lose. On that map you are better off positioning yourself so you can help stop the tanks getting over the bridge in the first place and just hope your team at the other bridge are not morons. that is my opinion and my opinion is based on winning and losing several battles on that map. The majority of the losses occur when people camp at and next to the castle.
 
Nuttah and I have a new theory, and it goes something like this.

Give positive feedback to your team and/or players when they do something good. Like giving a dog a treat when you ask it to rollover. Perhaps then they think, ah thats unusual players actually saying I did a good job - I must do that again.

We're in the process of patenting a USB device that dispenses little treats. So when we right click a players name in-game and give positive feedback, the dispenser throws out a bon-bon or other tasty morsal. Attached to the top of the dispenser will be a sprayer, containing water mixed with skunk extract. When the players do something bad, we can spray them in the face - I think you'll agree its humane and could have some important impact on the games playerbase.
 
Delboy said:
Nuttah and I have a new theory, and it goes something like this.

Give positive feedback to your team and/or players when they do something good. Like giving a dog a treat when you ask it to rollover. Perhaps then they think, ah thats unusual players actually saying I did a good job - I must do that again.

We're in the process of patenting a USB device that dispenses little treats. So when we right click a players name in-game and give positive feedback, the dispenser throws out a bon-bon or other tasty morsal. Attached to the top of the dispenser will be a sprayer, containing water mixed with skunk extract. When the players do something bad, we can spray them in the face - I think you'll agree its humane and could have some important impact on the games playerbase.
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you are forgetting the boxing glove to punch them when they are being extremely special :D:D
 
Rojin said:
First 4 games, 4 losses. Then a win, but a one sided win... I nearly logged out for some BF4 but the sadist in me kept playing. I think I managed to get a 50% won rate for the night but I don't know how!
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I hate when this happens. I get tanks when I am just rolling through my daily double runs like this. I can win my first three just fine but then my fourth I lose like 9 games in a row before I can win in it. It drives me mad sometimes.
 
Delboy said:
Nuttah and I have a new theory, and it goes something like this.

Give positive feedback to your team and/or players when they do something good. Like giving a dog a treat when you ask it to rollover. Perhaps then they think, ah thats unusual players actually saying I did a good job - I must do that again.

We're in the process of patenting a USB device that dispenses little treats. So when we right click a players name in-game and give positive feedback, the dispenser throws out a bon-bon or other tasty morsal. Attached to the top of the dispenser will be a sprayer, containing water mixed with skunk extract. When the players do something bad, we can spray them in the face - I think you'll agree its humane and could have some important impact on the games playerbase.
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mmmmmmmmmmm Bon Bons :D

how many Bon Bons would i get for this game ?

http://wotreplays.com/site/432233#komarin-chipps101-t-54
 
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Nuttah said:
Sorry - the treats are reserved solely for retards who show brief glimpses of normal behavior. If we start giving them out to seasoned pros what message does that give out?
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Those retards get gold ammo to give them a chance to think they're playing like pro's
We should get bon bons so we can get a glimpse of what it's like to be retarded :(

Unrelated:
Anyone else notice almost every T54 and IS-7 is firing gold ammo?
They are the ones I have noticed the most (other then E-100). Since installing the damage announcer I am surprised how many people use gold ammo as standard. Even JagPzE100s, E-75s and VKs constantly using it too. :confused:
 
Nuttah said:
Sorry - the treats are reserved solely for retards who show brief glimpses of normal behavior. If we start giving them out to seasoned pros what message does that give out?
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lol, this is the idea, use the treats to train them like dogs, if they doe something right they get a treat, if they do something monumentally retarded, they get a kick in the nuts. Its simple, they associate idiotic ideas with pain and dont do them anymore......hopefully
 
no_1_dave said:
......Since installing the damage announcer I am surprised how many people use gold ammo as standard. Even JagPzE100s, E-75s and VKs constantly using it too. :confused:
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Is the damage announcer worth using ?

I have noticed lately that the insult has changed when people get annoyed instead of being called noobs its now gold firing noobs.
 
varkanoid said:
Is the damage announcer worth using ?

I have noticed lately that the insult has changed when people get annoyed instead of being called noobs its now gold firing noobs.
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I find it useful. Sometimes shots which I'd have thought were using gold aren't, but the same happens vice versa.

It's good to know, not to shout "Gold noob," but helps you know whether it was your fault for not angling properly or not.
 
varkanoid said:
Is the damage announcer worth using ?

I have noticed lately that the insult has changed when people get annoyed instead of being called noobs its now gold firing noobs.
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Very useful.
If you know someone is firing gold it allows you to be more cautious. It also tells you who is hitting you even if they are not spotted and how long their reload is.

http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/299941-received-damage-announcer-v17-089/#top
In the screenshots ignore the different design of the modules etc. The damage announcer in it's standard form only adds a small log of who hits you, how much, ammo type & reload time. It doesn't change anything else
 
I am currently downloading this and hope to be on tomorrow. I have always had a quick read in this thread but never downloaded the game...to many other games getting in the way!

Is it all squad based and you must work as a team or will i be teamed up with lvl1 players to start with?
 
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