new rig for gaming help

atomic7431

atomic7431

atomic7431

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Thanks for looking.

so im moving away from my htpc setups which included a server and a front end and a uni pc for the wife which is also now not needed. sold some stuff already via the members market, but would like advice on what to do next please.

this is what i have at present -

1 x g1610 celerondcore cpu retail
1 x gigabyte ga-h77m-d3h mobo
1 x 1tb seagate sata 3 hdd
1 x 4gb (2x2gb) 1333MHz corsair
1 x corsair 430w cmpsu-430cxv2uk
2 x 120gb samsung 840 ssds
1 x cit reaper atx case
1 x 2tb seagate hdd
1 x amd a10-5800k cpu retail
1 x tbs 6981
1 x gigabyte f2a75m-d3h
1 x Corsair CML8GX3M2A1600C9 Vengeance Low Profile 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3
1 x silverstone lascala lc17 htpc case black
1 x 1tb western digital external hdd usb 3
1 x logitech k350
1 x logitech performance mx darkfield mouse

So i have no monitor except my panasonic plasma tv at present and i know to get the specs i will want, a monitor may have to wait until a later date unless you can help a lot lol.

So i am looking at spending tops £1200 pounds, never had sli and always had the ethos buy the best you can afford and then just change the gpu in a few years time. Whether thats for the best im not entirely sure lol.

Will use as much of the above as is sensible to do so, ie i presume the ssds will be fine? what about the cases and psu? (presume psu may be a little on the light side power wise), the 8gb ddr 3 1600mhz corsair dual channel can be used as think 16 gb not requird yet.

So been thinking intel and the haswell i5-4670k area and maybe an amd 290 or equivalent, bit worried about the noise issues they have seeing as there is no after market coolers yet.

want battlefield 4 mainly but other titles will be used as well, x rebirth looks nice but plagued with problems so im led to believe?

So please help, never had water cooling before but is this an option ?
aftermarket cpu cooler to cut down on noise and heat?

thanks

looked at this so far - thoughts and options please

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI Radeon R9 290 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with BattleField 4 PC Game Included £329.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £185.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-D3H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £119.99
1 x Antec High Current Gamer 620W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £79.99
Total : £725.56 (includes shipping : £8.00).

 
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Hi,

Here is a setup for a single GFX card (the PSU you picked wouldn't power a pair of these R9 290 cards anyway).

YOUR BASKET
1 x VTX3D Radeon R9 290 "Voltage Unlocked" X-Edition 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £319.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £185.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87-D3HP Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £109.99
1 x Seasonic G series 550w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £71.99
1 x BitFenix Shadow Tower Case - Midnight Black £54.98
Total : £752.54 (includes shipping : £8.00).




The VTX card is flashed by OcUK and they will look after the warranty for you.

The D3HP comes with a free aftermarket heatsink)

From what I can tell you can use your Corsair Vengeance low profile RAM, SSD's+HDD


Here is a SLI+Crossfire ready setup,

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor & Corsair H100i CPU Cooler Bundle £359.94
1 x VTX3D Radeon R9 290 "Voltage Unlocked" X-Edition 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £319.99
1 x Gigabyte G1.Sniper Z87 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £119.99
1 x Seasonic G series 750w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £99.95
1 x BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black £69.95
Total : £983.92 (includes shipping : £11.75).



An i7 really helps should you go for a pair of cards:)
 
You said you won't use Xfire/SLi so why pay the extra for the option on the mobo?

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £259.99
1 x MSI Radeon R9 280X Gaming Edition OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with BattleField 4 PC Game Included £239.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87-D3HP Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £109.99
1 x Seasonic G series 550w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £71.99
Total : £681.96 (includes shipping : FREE).



I'm not keen on the 290 reference cooler either fella. This mobo includes a decent free heatsink too btw
 
atomic7431 said:
thanks

the card i linked has a 3 year warranty though and battelfield 4 for an extra £10 ?
The cases i have would they be any good?

i really appreciate the advice
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It does but it is slower (the VTX is as fast as a R9 290X now) :)

Your cases are no good,

The CIT is a £20 budget case with poor cooling and no cable management and I am pretty sure the free cooler with the D3HP wont fit with the side panel.

The Silverstone takes an ATX board but is limited to 135mm coolers and from what I can see GFX length to the HDD bays.
 
stulid said:
It does but it is slower:)

Your cases are no good,

The CIT is a £20 budget case with poor cooling and no cable management and I am pretty sure the free cooler with the D3HP wont fit with the side panel.

The Silverstone takes an ATX board but is limited to 135mm coolers and from what I can see GFX length to the HDD bays.
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ok did not know it was slower.

Thought i may struggle with my cases, i have a coolermaster sniper case from a while back in the loft but dont really like it lol.
 
is onboard audio good now days or should i invest in a add in card ? for both music and games?

also if i bought a monitor which should i go for, i had a BenQ XL2420T 24" TRUE 120Hz a year or so ago, any better for a good price.
 
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To keep it short and sweet,

The Shadow will take the air cooler, but not the H100i and has a LED lighting system at the front bottom with red or blue colours.

The Ronin will take both and has a side window and stealth panel to cover the HDD bays and PSU with the window fitted.


atomic7431 said:
is onboard audio good now days or should i invest in a add in card ? for both music and games?
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The D3HP is satisfactory.

The Sniper is in another league - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18558959
 
atomic7431 said:
is onboard audio good now days or should i invest in a add in card ? for both music and games?
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The GB Sniper has good onboard audio. It is Xfire/Sli capable if you won't dual card then just stick with a 500Wish PSU.....

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI Radeon R9 280X Gaming Edition OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with BattleField 4 PC Game Included £239.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £185.99
1 x Gigabyte G1.Sniper Z87 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £119.99
1 x Seasonic G series 550w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £71.99
1 x BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black £69.95
1 x Corsair Hydro H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler *Manufacturer Refurbished Unit - 90 Day Guarantee £44.99
Total : £732.89 (includes shipping : FREE).

 
honosuseri said:
You said you won't use Xfire/SLi so why pay the extra for the option on the mobo?

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £259.99
1 x MSI Radeon R9 280X Gaming Edition OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with BattleField 4 PC Game Included £239.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87-D3HP Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £109.99
1 x Seasonic G series 550w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £71.99
Total : £681.96 (includes shipping : FREE).



I'm not keen on the 290 reference cooler either fella. This mobo includes a decent free heatsink too btw
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really wanted a 290, although the cooler on that is tempting, how long before an after market cooled 290 is out, although i cant wait lol
 
atomic7431 said:
really wanted a 290, although the cooler on that is tempting, how long before an after market cooled 290 is out, although i cant wait lol
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Sorted for you:)

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor & Corsair H100i CPU Cooler Bundle £359.94
1 x VTX3D Radeon R9 290 "Voltage Unlocked" X-Edition 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £319.99
1 x Gigabyte G1.Sniper Z87 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £119.99
1 x Seasonic G series 750w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £99.95
1 x BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black £69.95
Total : £983.92 (includes shipping : £11.75).



The i7 is much better in BF4 than a i5;) - http://i.imgur.com/O5axjN5.jpg
 
atomic7431 said:
really wanted a 290, although the cooler on that is tempting, how long before an after market cooled 290 is out, although i cant wait lol
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Yeah it's hard to ignore the bang for buck it offers, it's just the gash reference cooler that puts me right off. No idea when we will see better coolers on them, could be in the new year for all I know.

It might pay to wait a little bit anyway. AMD are introducing Mantle which is a new API. BF4 will be patched to use it soon (next month is it?), you can then see if Mantle helps out the 280X enough to make it more tempting, obviously the 290 would also benefit but you have to balance out the costs.
 
honosuseri said:
Yeah it's hard to ignore the bang for buck it offers, it's just the gash reference cooler that puts me right off. No idea when we will see better coolers on them, could be in the new year for all I know.

It might pay to wait a little bit anyway. AMD are introducing Mantle which is a new API. BF4 will be patched to use it soon (next month is it?), you can then see if Mantle helps out the 280X enough to make it more tempting, obviously the 290 would also benefit but you have to balance out the costs.
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decisions decisions....
 
atomic7431 said:
unfortunately i havent got it now, is it still a good monitor compared to newer tech?
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Well for fast gaming a 144Hz screen will help:)

Takes you up to your budget:)

YOUR BASKET
1 x intel core i7-4770k 3.50ghz (haswell) socket lga1150 processor & corsair h100i cpu cooler bundle £359.94
1 x vtx3d radeon r9 290 "voltage unlocked" x-edition 4096mb gddr5 pci-express graphics card £319.99
1 x aoc g2460pqu 24" widescreen 144hz 1ms gaming led monitor - gunmetal £239.99
1 x gigabyte g1.sniper z87 intel z87 (socket 1150) ddr3 atx motherboard £119.99
1 x seasonic g series 750w '80 plus gold' modular power supply £99.95
1 x bitfenix ronin tower case - black £69.95
total : £1,232.72 (includes shipping : £19.10).



free delivery which you get = £1209

so not only is the i7 faster than the i5,

the r9290x (which the vtx is as fast as) is around 20fps faster in bf4 than a 280x;) - http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/battlefield_4_vga_graphics_performance_benchmark,7.html
 
wow now that looks a beast, the aoc only does up to 1080p wonder if i will ever use more than that, cost is at max though. That gpu does indeed seem a great card if its as quick as a 290x bargain.

thanks again for all the help just not sure about the screen otherwise im sold
 
I have one here:)

Height adjust, tilt, pivot stand etc.

To get the full 144Hz experience from the AOC use DVI atleast;)

With 144Hz screens as they are refreshing over twice as fast as a normal screen then the motion seems more fluid and they seem more responsive.
 
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