It can just be a nosey neighbour! That's one of the things I find especially scary!
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It can just be a nosey neighbour! That's one of the things I find especially scary!
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It is unlikely that will actually happen as the police have said they will review it case by case. I.E. if its just a neighbour asking without any real reason to it, then the request will be rejected.
I think there are so many ****** undemocratic laws these days that we should just pretend like the government never existed and go back to societal self regulation.
Regardless of what I think of this law, I still think laws are just the the direct opposite of freedom.
Regardless of what I think of this law, I still think laws are just the the direct opposite of freedom.
I'm sure you would change your mind when murder wasn't illegal and someone was after you. I'm betting you are all for societal self regulation right up to the second it actually impacts you.
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Anarchism doesn't work.
Nope, if someone wants to kill me, I kill them first, or resolve it, or because I am an upstanding community member who has earnt the loyalty of my friends in the community I am protected by those around me.
If someone wants to kill me now, the law is on neither side, they will try to kill regardless, only if I kill them before they can kill me, I go down for murder, deterring me from doing so. What is a law going to do?
And the current system does?
Currently we just get ****ed whatever we do, whatever we say we have no control, at least with anarchism there is scope to change that.
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I don't think you understand how the law works.
It's not perfect but yes, it does work.
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What is stopping a women from trying to get a man on to the list who cheated on her? ie the relationship added badly for the woman and out of revenge and spite she tried to blacklist him for future women? What is the criteria to get on to the list?
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There is no blacklist. It's just a disclosure of someone's past DV history. This will only include information the Police deem relevant and so I don't see how you could be tricked onto it.
I understand how the law works, it's a system of punishment but it doesn't prevent crime, recidivism in this country is over 90%. What you fail to recognise is the same accountability exists under anarchy, it's simply more able to take into account mitigating factors leading up to a crime and provide more effective measures against it.
It works for some, it makes the rest of us slaves and submissive morons, tools of the greedy and powerful. You either accept slavery or you fight for true democracy.
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Here's a bit more information about how the scheme works: http://ukcriminallawblog.com/2013/11/25/clares-law-to-go-nationwide/
Do you have some kind of link/info to back this up?. I can't seem to find anything.
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I only read about it in internal Police comms, but it's definitely the case.
I think it's reasonable to be able to check anyone's criminal convictions, I should be allowed to make informed decisions about whom I associate with based on their proven historical record. I certainly don't think members of the public such as myself should be put in danger to protect criminals, or made to rely on a police force which has proven itself to be woefully inept at keeping tracking of criminals such as the terrorist who recently evaded the police by wearing a burka.
why does some stuff I did when I were around 15 years old have any relevance on what I'm like now considering it happened around 18 years ago and I haven't been arrested since?
Non of it had been related to violent crime either so it would not really tell you what type of person I am.
It was mostly car theft etc, but as you can see from my trust I gave away a cycling computer just because I no longer used it.
Threads created shows me giving £20 on steam away.
If you dig deeper you would find another give away I did in a guess the game thread that was also money and not an unused game code
Not everything on someone's criminal record tells you what that person is like, if it were from over a decade ago and nothing since it is possible and more than likely the individual has changed.
Although I would agree violent tendencies are likely a life long trait
This is also the case for Sarah's Law which is the same as Clare's but covers sexual crimes.
Are you saying only SOME criminals change then?
well all the people I grew up with that were violent back then are still violent people now, so based on my experience they don't tend to change their ways.
It seems you either have a temper or you do not