Is it Legal for a baby to ride pillion on a Motorcycle?

Some of the comments in this thread are full on retard.

Wearing a helmet wont save your life if you get crushed by an HGV. However, if you clip kerb or something similair, it'll stop brain damage from you smashing your head into a railing, car, road etc.

My brothers mate was cycling the Honnister pass in the lakes, overcooked it on a wet corner and went straight into a stone wall, head first, and the wall didn't budge. His helmet was smashed to bits, his head suffered a few injuries, but if he wasn't wearing his helmet he'd be dead.

As for the straps, yes they should be tight enough so that if you do come off, it's not going to flap around on your head and completely miss the impact area.

Quite how some people think that helmets are useless/you can wear them loose is beyond me.
 
Bunka said:
Some of the comments in this thread are full on retard.

Wearing a helmet wont save your life if you get crushed by an HGV. However, if you clip kerb or something similair, it'll stop brain damage from you smashing your head into a railing, car, road etc.

My brothers mate was cycling the Honnister pass in the lakes, overcooked it on a wet corner and went straight into a stone wall, head first, and the wall didn't budge. His helmet was smashed to bits, his head suffered a few injuries, but if he wasn't wearing his helmet he'd be dead.

As for the straps, yes they should be tight enough so that if you do come off, it's not going to flap around on your head and completely miss the impact area.

Quite how some people think that helmets are useless/you can wear them loose is beyond me.
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If he wasn't wearing a helmet the odds are he wouldn't have felt as safe so would have been more cautious
 
bazaarboy said:
are you smoking cannabis?
helmets prevent serious brain injury in accidents
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Err, no.

Cosimo said:
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Read the article I posted. The net benefit of helmet wearing has been shown to be close to nil. They will prevent injuries - I revised my post- but not life threatening ones.

Shows how backwards this country is, the guy should be commended for easing congestion on the roads in London. Instead, he's being treated like a criminal and idiot.
 
arknor said:
If he wasn't wearing a helmet the odds are he wouldn't have felt as safe so would have been more cautious
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How on earth can you speculate that?

He's a very competent cyclist and you have the same faith in your abilities whether you're wearing a helmet or not. Just because I wear a helmet, it doesn't make me feel like I'm wearing full body armour and am invisible. Do you think that cyclists with helmets believe they can get away with anything and that they don't care about coming off and leaving half of their skin embedded into the road?!
 
arknor said:
If he wasn't wearing a helmet the odds are he wouldn't have felt as safe so would have been more cautious
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If cars didn't have brake lights, the odds are you'd be more cautious when driving. Doesn't mean not having brake lights is a good idea.
 
It helps if you know what you are talking about before blindly believing all the manufacturer bull

http://www.slideshare.net/Amsterdam...the-reduction-of-injuries-of-cyclists#btnNext

That man (linked in OP) is well within his legal right to do what he was doing. The risk is caused by motorists, not his chosen method of transport.

But hey, cyclists are easy to hate.. off you go, let all your aggression out on more vunerable road users. That'll help prevent people dieing on our roads wont it.

Wear a flimsy plastic cap he says. It'll stop people with an inflated sense of importance from killing you he says...
 
It it the same with helmets and snow sports, no clear evidence that they help. Sure there are scenarios that support wearing a helmet but most injuries are to the torso, wrists, knees and ankles. The reduction in head injuries for skiers and boarders has been shown to be not so much different to the reduction you would see if pedestrians walking down the high street wore helmets.

For the religious helmet wearer, would you wear a helmet walking down the street? You have similar odds of slipping or tripping and hitting your head?
 
Linkex said:
Are you suggesting that he was safety concious enough to be wearing a helmet, but riding recklessly?
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if he overcooked it to the point he went head on into a wall yes.

do you own a bike? ever overcooked it on a corner and gone head on into anything?

What usually happens is the back end slides out and you fall to the floor.

I've fell off at 15mph and didn't come anywhere near hitting my head on anything.

this guy with the kids is probably cycling at less than 10mph
 
Gilly said:
You don't think that it is a good idea for a cyclist ferrying around young children to take all reasonable precautions for their and their children's safety? he falls, even at low speed, and bangs his head. Who makes sure his kids are OK? He's an idiot.
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Guy above beat me to it, but I hope you wear a helmet when you leave the house just in case you fall while walking, hit your head and die.

If not, who will make sure your kids are OK? You irresponsible monster. :o
 
arknor said:
if he overcooked it to the point he went head on into a wall yes.

do you own a bike? ever overcooked it on a corner and gone head on into anything?

What usually happens is the back end slides out and you fall to the floor.

I've fell off at 15mph and didn't come anywhere near hitting my head on anything.

this guy with the kids is probably cycling at less than 10mph
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You're making the assumption you're not hitting an object.
 
Quite how some people think that helmets are useless/you can wear them loose is beyond me.
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You are aware the correct way to wear the helmet right?
the chin strap should not be tight.
the chin strap should only feel snug when your mouth is WIDE open.

now measure your chin distance with and without your mouth WIDE open.

that is a pretty BIG gap.

You're making the assumption you're not hitting an object.
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Everyone in this thread is making multiple assumptions.

the assumption he is going to fall off.
the assumption he will hit his head when he does.
the assumption a helmet will make a difference.
the assumption a helmet has been shown to make a significant difference / save a life
 
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One More Solo said:
Guy above beat me to it, but I hope you wear a helmet when you leave the house just in case you fall while walking, hit your head and die.

If not, who will make sure your kids are OK? You irresponsible monster. :o
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Ridiculous argument and you know it. You're far more unstable on a bike than you are on two feet, not to mention that you generally don't have vehicles overtaking you at high speed when you're walking on a pavement.

Clearly a helmet isn't going to save you from being wiped out by a HGV, but in many circumstances it can prevent head injuries which are far more likely to occur when cycling. Surely in this instance it's better to be safe than sorry.
 
I'd argue you are far more stable on a bike they are self balancing pretty much.

Whilst walking you are likely to meet uneven pavement etc

anyway statistics say you are more likely to have an accident walking
 
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