Of course there is, he's not talking about them though is he, he's talking about Suarez.
He's also a Racist nutter that bites and dives
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Fairly weak reasons for wanting someone out of the country, unless he was actually a Racist
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Fairly weak reasons for wanting someone out of the country, unless he was actually a Racist
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What is their not to make sense? i said maybe united can claw back 12 points but i doubt it.
What if you dont make top 4? would you want moyes gone?
By all accounts he wanted to join Man Utd and Moyes turned him down, but I take your point.
Says who? where did Ozil said he wanted to join united?
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Fairly weak reasons for wanting someone out of the country, unless he was actually a Racist
Did he just sit out that ban then for a rest?
How many reasons do you want?
Racist, diver, biter, wanted to screw your club over.......
He's vile, he's a great player and I love seeing him in the PL but he's still vile.
I'd be pretty annoyed, but we'll have to wait and see how it plays out.
There was a lot of talk about it when he joined Arsenal if I remember rightly. Ozil didn't say it publicly, obviously.
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Of course there is, he's not talking about them though is he, he's talking about Suarez.
He's also a Racist nutter that bites and dives
He's not a racist lol. I believe he called Evra a spanish word they give to some black people in South America. I wouldn't class that as a racist imo. He didn't even say the N word. If he was guilty he would have denied he said anythig altogether and got away with it.
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You should still be winning more points if your team are only playing 75%.
Arsenal have only just recently started playing well tbh and i think many of our players are playing 75% such as Cazola.
He is still nto firing yet and girud is hit and miss as well.
either way, you dont win titles playing your absolute best all year round!
We're not all fickle Arsenal fans
Didn't you want Wenger dead after the first game of the season?
Where is it stated as fact that he was only ever offered to Arsenal?
I don't care lol.
Nip outside and call a black guy Negro, explain while he's punching you in the face that it's a Spanish word given to some black people.
Let's not go down this road again as it's been done a million times but c-o-o-n is a word given to describe black people, would you use it in an everyday conversation?
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3 yellows and only gets 1. I have seen him do a lot of nasty tackles as well. The guy has no regard for any one and does the same **** time and time again.
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We're not all fickle Arsenal fans
Didn't you want Wenger dead after the first game of the season?
Where is it stated as fact that he was only ever offered to Arsenal?
Where is stated as fact that he had other offers?
You lot where after fabregas throughout the summer!
i wanted wenger dead long ago but he seems to have turned a corner.
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Still your calling him a racist when he isn't. John Terry on the other hand got away with murder.
Moyes definitely said he had "the chance" to bid for Ozil but decided not to, which would imply he was offered to him in some form or another, which backs up the stories that he wanted to join us. These things are rarely talk about in factual terms though, given how dodgy/secretive players, clubs and agents are.
Where is it stated as fact he didn't have any? (are we going to do this all day?)
And?
Basically you're a fickle Arsenal fan who most Arsenal fans cringe when they see posting, how about you disappear for a couple of months again
Luis Suarez has more league goals this season than Spurs, Fulham, Cardiff, Palace, Sunderland and Norwich, and he missed the first 5 games.
He's also been suspended for 28 matches in the last few years without picking up a red card.
I remember somebody using this as an excuse for Hodgson when he was at Liverpool. As I said then, when the team as a whole has the odd bad performance or if one or two players are putting in regular bad performances then you blame the players but when the team as a whole is regularly under performing then you look to the manager.
As you say Robbo, we know that the side is capable of playing to a far higher standard so why aren't they? It's the managers job to get the best out of the players and for whatever reason, whether he can't motivate them or whether it's a result of his tactics, he's failing to do so.
He's also been suspended for 28 matches in the last few years without picking up a red card.
I remember somebody using this as an excuse for Hodgson when he was at Liverpool. As I said then, when the team as a whole has the odd bad performance or if one or two players are putting in regular bad performances then you blame the players but when the team as a whole is regularly under performing then you look to the manager.
As you say Robbo, we know that the side is capable of playing to a far higher standard so why aren't they? It's the managers job to get the best out of the players and for whatever reason, whether he can't motivate them or whether it's a result of his tactics, he's failing to do so.
TIL the FA think you're probably guilty makes you a Racist.
I don't see people going oh X is a deplorable human being, but what a goal about anyone else Rofl, let alone get them out of the country
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The above wasn't all known, most of it was but the general thing of it is a lot of people thought because he did(seemingly) well at Everton on 60mil, then at Utd on 180mil he SHOULD do better. The SHOULD part of that is wishful thinking though. Just because someone does well at a smaller club doesn't mean they should do well with a bigger budget at a different club.
The main argument say I was making was, a new manager who isn't used to playing a specific way can go to a top team and just expect to be a top manager who wins things. A long term manager who has "not losing" engrained in his management style could have significant issues or be incapable of adapting to a winning mentality.
Moyes's mentality for a decade was not risking it all to win against bigger teams, and going for draws, it's just the wrong mentality to win things, completely.
Going all out attack might lose the odd game, but will (with a great team) win many many more games than you lose. With a great squad, if you just try and draw the big games, you'll lose more often anyway, you'll draw more, and you'll win less, and you'll not be champions.
Where would Mourinho or Guardiola be now if they spent a decade managing a midtable league one side before getting a big job? There is a reason guys who manage first time at teams capable of winning things tend to do significantly better than those who manage teams who can't win things.
It was a huge risk assuming Moyes could step up and step entirely out of his existing comfort zone, he's utterly failed to do so.
Again it's not about a new manager doing better straight away, it's about a manager coming in and showing some steel, some direction, showing that he has a plan of where the team is going.
A new guy might come in, lose a few games, win a few, but change the system, drop Valencia, put RVP/Rooney upfront in a 4-4-2, get the defence working together, sell Evra in January, etc. Moyes has come in, changed very little, the biggest "change" with Rooney upfront and Kagawa behind was something enforced on him, not wanted, something he actively didn't do when he had the choice. He moved on... no one, he dropped.... no one, he changed.... nothing. He bought one horrendously overpriced player and showed instantly he judges players by a completely different standard to where top clubs should.
For one manager, he see's players of Ozil and above as great, and everyone else as ****, another manager thinks everyone including and above Fellaini is awesome, and everyone below is crap.... which manager ends up buying the better squad?
Moyes hasn't shown any ability, or intention to change things. Another manager might do as badly but be in the clear process of change.
Losing with no plan and no way to change it isn't the same as losing while going through a massive change.
Either way, I think Simeone will be high up on the most wanted managers list in summer. I can't see him walking away from the season they are having before this year is up though, no chance.
There are decent performances in between the shocking ones though which is the problem, beating Arsenal, hammering Bayer all peppered with **** against the likes of Albion and Cardiff.
They do, look at John Terry, he got grief as much as anyone on here