Let me put it this way, if you asked me do I believe that Roswell Style aliens live on Mars by answer would be no. If however you asked 'do you believe life exists somewhere in the universe' I would answer 'yes'. So in some form I believe in aliens and thus I'm not an 'A-extraterrestrialist'.
The term 'Alien' have a universal and coherent definition...The term 'God' does not.
I'm proposing a similar question with God to you which you keep avoiding. I don't have any concept of what an alien life-form may take, but I don't need to have that knowledge to answer the questions above. I don't need to run around saying the question is meaningless because of the limitless possibilities etc etc.
The term Alien has a defined universally coherent definition. What form an Alien life-form may take is immaterial.
If you are asking 'do I think God (as in a yet undefined concept) could exist?'
Then the answer would have to be yes...as God could be defined as anything at all, including an Alien life-form . (Thus why the question has no meaning).
If you are asking if I think that the question 'Does God(s) Exist' then I have to ask you to present a coherent, universal definition of God before I can answer.
Therefore I am not an Atheist.
So if I can answer the question regarding aliens, why can't you answer the same question about God?
Obviously because Alien has a coherent, universal definition.
Except the one that many people keep posting here, i.e "Not a theist".
Why do you keep denying that is a valid definition of an atheist despite numerous people here claiming that is how they would define it. You keep referring to other philosophical positions as if they are mutually exclusive from atheism and will even refer to definitions of the word taken from 'people you know' but not from the people in this thread.
I'm not denying anything (you are denying my right to self define my own position, while imposing others self definition on me..hardly consistent), I have clearly stated you are free to believe whatever you wish....What I am telling you that I am not "not a theist" in any meaningful way the term can be presented....I might well be a Theist if a coherent proposition of God is presented...I may not. The question currently has no meaning, therefore I am not an Atheist as an atheist, and a theist (and agnostic) accepts the validity of the proposition in the first instance...I don't.
Essentially to be completely clear....I do not accept the premise or validity of the question, so any answer I give would be as meaningless as the proposition. Effectively you are asking me to create the definition of the proposition and formulate the question myself and then answer my own question...meaningless! As was proven when you asked me the question initially, then altered the parameters of the question when you didn't like the answer...
Theodore Drange said:
Since the word "God" has many different meanings, it is possible for the sentence "God exists" to express many different propositions. What we need to do is to focus on each proposition separately. … For each different sense of the term "God," there will be theists, atheists, and agnostics relative to that concept of God.
So depending on the definition of the proposition, I could be a theist, atheist or agnostic. As regard the broad question "Does God exist?" I am none of those things.
You better learn to live with it estebanrey...because it isn't going to change, unless a coherent, universally validated proposition for the definition of God is presented, of course.
