Uruguay becomes first nation to legalise marijuana trade

What is truly crazy is alcohol,sugar and tobacco and the damage they cause to society and people and the cost to the Nhs and yet they are all completely legal and yet weed is not its completely crazy and makes no sense.
 
Freefaller said:
We have a 0 policy at work - instant dismissal. Random testing, and although it covers us in head office as well, it's a very sensible rule, especially with people operating 100s of tonnes worth of machinery, and digging under London and working in high risk environments. I fully support it. One person being injured is unacceptable, if God forbid someone loses a leg or dies, then it's unforgivable. The chance of that increasing if the person is not compus mentis is higher.
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That's understandable though in other roles - say in an office etc.. regular pro-active drugs testing would be a bit silly... the guy who had a pint or two at lunch or who only got a couple of hours sleep because he's got a newborn at home are likely going to be even worse off than someone with some traces of THC in their system.
 
I remember sitting down to watch a jolly ole' game of football (Peñarol‎) and the chap next to me started snorting cocaine off a kitchen knife. Golly gosh!
 
u might as well close this thread as it will just turn into to usual arguments

personaly i think it should be legalised, i would say just for medical use, and that would be a very good start, but you will never stop the pot heads

and heres one for the brainwashed haters on here

dont forget its been medical PROVEN that cannabis (oil) can be used to treat ALL forms of cancer known...... so people could grow their own medicine at home!!! for free!!!! OMG no think of all the poor drug companies... lol
 
Haze said:
dont forget its been medical PROVEN that cannabis (oil) can be used to treat ALL forms of cancer known...... so people could grow their own medicine at home!!! for free!!!! OMG no think of all the poor drug companies... lol
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If you could link me to those research papers I'd be delighted and surprised, but it's simply not true. You think cannabis oil is a substitute for cancer drugs?
 
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Ok, so it's a compound derived from cannabinol and involves synthesis in a lab because of the concentrated dose required, ie you can't just "grow your own medicine."

Legalising cannabis will have no effect on this and it's something that drug companies would be all over if it was more effective than current methods.

EDIT: it's also worth being aware that there are dozens if not hundreds of drugs every yearwhich show promise in treating various forms of cancer, but simply aren't an improvement on current drugs. Cannabis just gets more exposure because the headline is CANNABIS CURES CANCER BUT EVIL DRUG COMPANIES DONT CARE rather than TCT2546-L SHOWS POTENTIAL IN EARLY STAGE CANCER TRIALS.
 
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errr Colorado and Washington legalised Marajuana use ages ago. Gotta be nigh on a year. Has the world ended ? No and that's North America. Admittedly it's odd that it legal at state level but remains federally illeagal . But Obama aint sending the fuzz to shut things down. So like the Netherlands there is a tolerance.
Go Uruguay.
 
well I guess you will shoot me down here.... but soft drugs aka cannabis can lead to harder drugs

and yes I think all of my friends that smoked weed moved on to class A drugs.

but hey that could be just my friends.
 
canman said:
well I guess you will shoot me down here.... but soft drugs aka cannabis can lead to harder drugs
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Firstly 'can lead' != 'does lead' and secondly isn't the main reason for that because it is illegal? Hence users no longer fear the law that covers harder drugs and often have to deal with people trying to sell them 'something else'?

Why, for example do people rarely claim that alcohol can lead to harder drugs? There's nothing 'magical' that in weed that's not in booze that makes you more inclined to start injecting heroine.

I'd also wager that a very many people first took cannabis under the influence of alcohol so in short, the argument makes no logical pathway to its conclusion and even when it does happen it can happen more frequently via legally obtainable drugs like alcohol.
 
djferrick said:
But Obama aint sending the fuzz to shut things down. So like the Netherlands there is a tolerance.
Go Uruguay.
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Obama is worst than Bush, which annoys me - If Obama had been caught smoking the marijuana he's admitting smoking, he would have received a record and probably never achieved much after that, let alone become president.

Hypocrites.

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well I guess you will shoot me down here.... but soft drugs aka cannabis can lead to harder drugs

and yes I think all of my friends that smoked weed moved on to class A drugs.
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No it doesn't.

The only way that can happen, is because marijuana is illegal and thus you have to go to dodgy drug dealers to get it, who also try and push heroin on you.

This is another reason to legalise marijuana.
 
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I wonder how long it will take the government to realize that legal marijuana is an excellent source of tax revenue...
 
dowie said:
That's understandable though in other roles - say in an office etc.. regular pro-active drugs testing would be a bit silly... the guy who had a pint or two at lunch or who only got a couple of hours sleep because he's got a newborn at home are likely going to be even worse off than someone with some traces of THC in their system.
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Oh I agree that office only companies are less of an issue, and I agree fatigue is a major issue in all lines of work.

Again it's also my own personal preconception and stigma I have towards drugs. :) So my opinion is somewhat skewed, but I wouldn't want to work in an office where I knew there were people that took drugs regularly.

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most drug tests test for metabolites not the actual drug. the tiny amount of the drug used compared to the amount of alcohol used makes it incredibly difficult to detect the actual substance in time.
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Which probably makes the tests pretty poor (it's only a breathalyser and peeing in a cup) however, it would still make me uncomfortable if I knew people were in a altered state - if I didn't know and their performance and behaviour was perfectly normal then of course I'd be happily in ignorance.
 
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