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pepp77 said:
I have an Android phone and an iPad Mini and that is how to me they work best
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Same, S4 + iPad Mini (Retina).

The problem with Android tablets I find is the Nexus 7 doesn't feel great in your hands, it feels rubbery where the Mini has this lovely metal feel, it just makes the experience more enjoyable.

Also the 7" Nexus 7 is too small for web browsing, plus the 16:10 ratio isn't as useful as the 8" 4:3 ratio on the iPad Mini. Just try a few websites side by side and it's clear which is easier to use. The LG G pad might offer some good competition, but there doesn't seem to be a cellular version?
 
Apple has a great eco system, they have more apps, however i dont think thats the best thing about their ecosystem, its the movies, the textbooks, the lectures, podcasts etc.
They are also great at advertising.

Android is to fragmented and so open everyone side loads apps and avoids buying. Whiich stunts the ecosystem. They do not restrict the hardware meaning people have terrible experiences on under powered equpiment.

Windows has gone for a nice medium, far more choice than apple, but not totally open hardware, and people actually pay for apps. The apps are high quality now as well. But they need to grow there user base and apps. They also need to keep up with hardware. Its not good releasing hardware 6months + after android has done it. Hopefully this isn't something they've learnt with gdr3 supporting high res screens and things like snapdragon800, they need to be far more proactive on supporting new hardware.
Also plenty of films that arent on xbox movies but are on itunes. Thats the thing with apple, extremely good chance what ever you want they'll have unlike android/windows.

Would take either over apple these days, iOS is just stuck in 2009. it was a great when iOS was released, they just haven't kept up with developments in android/windows and the os is far more important than 100,000 apps i wont use.
The next few years are going to be interesting with increased competition between the three major players and amazon is doing pretty darn well.
 
The variety and quality of apps for iPad blows Android tablets out of the water. The great thing about the iPad is that you buy one with the confidence that it'll still be supported three years later and still be compatible with all of the latest apps.

There's always going to people who prefer Android for very specific reasons but for most users the iPad is still ahead of the game.
 
Mekrel said:
The Android tablet experience is still disjointed, Google have actually highlighted this even more since the launch of KitKat and not providing (officially) the Google Experience Launcher for the N7 and N10 tablets.

The 10" experience is very poor, speaking from experience with my Nexus 10, especially after they moved the soft keys into the middle of the navigation bar where your fingers can't reach when the tablet is being held in landscape mode.

They're making great progress with getting developers to provide tablet specific layouts with the launch of Android studio and having the Play Store give greater presence to apps that have proper tablet support.
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The last point is definitely a major issue. While Apple have an iPad specific store with hundreds of thousands of iPad apps the play store seems to have a few tens of thousands of tablet specific apps and lots more normal apps that will upscale. Fine, except they just aren't as fluid and can be a downright pain. Android is way behind in the apps front , behind both Apple and Microsoft (which has over 100k dedicated tablep apps now - for both RT and pro). This is coming from someone who has had Android and Apple tablets.

The general disjointedness and annoyances of Android can be added to the above. I'm thinking of moving back to WP for my next phone, there are just too many weird quirks in Android that shouldn't happen, still behind iOS and WP. It's a shame, it has coke a long way in the last couple of years especially in smoothness, it's almost up there with iOS and WP now.

I also think Apple got it right with 4x3 and 8" for their screen. The Nexus 7 is significantly smaller and just doesn't gel as well as the mini which can be used brilliantly in both landscape and portrait, with just one small negative, bigger black bars when watching films. They really aren't similar devices and IMO shouldn't be compared* as the form factor is so different.

* in the same way the full size iPad 4 and the mini "shouldn't" be compared.

Edit: having said that, obviously a lot of this is all to do with personal preference. Some people want to play and change their OS constantly by rooting and heavy customisation, most just want something that "just works". Android "just works" most of the time but it doesn't "just work" as well as the other OSs out there IMO.
 
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Steve_bullockuk said:
I have to agree that the "android just doesn't work right on tablets" argument has been overplayed in the same way as the "Android doesn't run as smooth as iOS" argument, however from my own personal experience of owning both a Nexus 7 and an iPad Mini, the mini is the more functional of the 2 devices mainly down to the wider range of tablet specific apps and the pretty astounding power management of the iPad. It just doesn't use power when its asleep unlike the Nexus 7 I had.
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Thats very true. I didn't use my mini for about 3 weeks and was very surprised that it had holy lost 20% of its power when I picked it up again! That is on, drawing emails and Facebook etc. Android just can't get anywhere near that. On the other hand the new RT from MS seems to have awesome lower management as well, wiping the floor in useage battery life with all the others, not sure what it's sleep drain is though.
 
Skyfall said:
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Even if you ignore that, this sentence clearly seems to think that the fantastic Nexus 7 2012's experience is "wrong"... I just can't reconcile how someone could make that statement in a professional environment.

I see these kind of sweeping statements all the time and just don't understand why people are so taken with Apple.

/rant
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I've got an Android phone (currently an N4, but it's my 4th on the platform), which I absolutely love. Android is fantastic for a mobile OS. Widgets mean that you can take it out your pocket and see most relevant information without even needing to unlock the thing. For me a mobile phone is as much about a receipt of information as they are about using apps.

A tablet is different. Usually you (or at least I) use a tablet for apps. I bought an N7 when it first came out, and was unimpressed. Yes, it had widgets, but they aren't as useful as they are on a phone, and the aspect ratio is worse than the iPad's for everything except watching movies, which I don't do much of. Out of the box, iOS is better than Android for simply getting you into an app quickly as well.

In short, my opinion is that Android suits the mobile phone use case better than iOS. Tablets are another matter.

Edit: All that said, the Dell Venue Pro 8 is a very, very tempting upgrade from my iPad Mini!
 
Kreeeee said:
No, but that's not the point of Android. If you want to do something and you're not a moron there's nothing stopping you.
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On the other hand, that doesn't exactly appeal to the masses does it? Most people would rather get something working as they want out of the box.
 
I really do like the Idea of a winows tablet but apps are a problem, moreso though is the lack of great devices. I would definitely give a windows tablet a try if it was comparable resolution,spec ad price as the to android devices.
 
I've just had a try of the Surface 2, and I think it is rather good as a tablet, as well as good build quality and a rather nice screen.

But the lack of things you can install on 8.1RT (compared to what appears to be of little difference to Windows 8.1) really does stop me from being interested in it.
 
What i would like to see is a Chromebook Tablet which runs Android Apps and Chrome Apps.

I believe it will happen as Google's aim is to eventually have Chrome OS replace Android. Chrome and Android are already under one leader and although we haven't seen much interms of integration i believe that is the longterm goal.

It will eventually happen....It sure makes more business sense to maintain one OS rather than two
 
Tunney said:
The variety and quality of apps for iPad blows Android tablets out of the water. The great thing about the iPad is that you buy one with the confidence that it'll still be supported three years later and still be compatible with all of the latest apps.

There's always going to people who prefer Android for very specific reasons but for most users the iPad is still ahead of the game.
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Apple pretty much left me high and dry when they restricted the ios that could be installed on my ipad 1. Pretty much turned me right off apple products.
 
pepp77 said:
I have an Android phone and an iPad Mini
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Ditto. Nothing comes close to matching iOS on iPad. It's slick, intuitive and has a great ecosystem. This is probably what the reviewer is referring to in his article. Android is far from perfect, but the vanilla software and phenomenal hardware makes the Nexus 5 great value for money.

Tablet: iPad Air
Phone: Nexus 5

zpos said:
Apple pretty much left me high and dry when they restricted the ios that could be installed on my ipad 1. Pretty much turned me right off apple products.
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It wouldn't have been worth it. The original iPad isn't powerful enough to run iOS 7. You aren't totally out of luck because you can still download an older version of an application if the latest version requires iOS 7.
 
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KIA said:
Ditto. Nothing comes close to matching iOS on iPad. It's slick, intuitive and has a great ecosystem. This is probably what the reviewer is referring to in his article. Android is far from perfect, but the vanilla software and phenomenal hardware makes the Nexus 5 great value for money.

Tablet: iPad Air
Phone: Nexus 5

It wouldn't have been worth it. The original iPad isn't powerful enough to run iOS 7. You aren't totally out of luck because you can still download an older version of an application if the latest version requires iOS 7.
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I agree with that and I have same combination of Phone/Tablet as you :)

I think what zpos is referring to about Apple "shunning" the iPad 1 is that it stopped on iOS 5 where as the iPod touch 4th Gen got iOS 6 and it has the same internals bar the screen as the iPad 1, so with that you could say the iPad 1 can run iOS 6 theoretically :)
 
Ive had an iphone and got a Sony Xperia Z tablet and it seemed intuitive to me, and easier to navigate and find the settings I required tbh.

Like the OS so much I went for a Sony xperia SP phone (that and a new iphone is very expensive!)

Id consider windows tablets/phones but cost:specs wise its a bit offputting, I also definitely wouldn't consider RT!
 
iPad 1 was poorly specced at launch never mind now IMO, it was certainly an early adopters product which comes with all of the negatives of such "version 1" devices.

I've used Spotify on an iPad and found it a joy to use to be honest. What's interesting is that this same quality interface is on the Android version too yet for a while I'd say the iPad had better tablet optimised apps compared to Android but perhaps now that isn't necessarily the case. Don't really use any other apps a side from the browser and YouTube so not really got much to compare it on :p. Really intrigued by the surface pro 2, might be able to dump my desktop for one.
 
MLAM said:
I think what zpos is referring to about Apple "shunning" the iPad 1 is that it stopped on iOS 5 where as the iPod touch 4th Gen got iOS 6 and it has the same internals bar the screen as the iPad 1, so with that you could say the iPad 1 can run iOS 6 theoretically :)
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Yep, I was stung by that too. As a business 'early adopter' I was not pleased at all. It was a ridiculous decision and left me with a bunch of tablets with unsupported operating systems.
 
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