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Will it Crossfire? R9 280X & HD 7970 Scaling Tested

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So did our little experiment work? You bet. Without any issues whatsoever. The Catalyst software suite picked up both cards (in this case an R9 280X and HD 7970 GHz Edition), detected a Crossfire compatible system and we were off to the races. The only small hiccup was a slight reduction in the GHz Edition’s core speed to compensate for the lower-clocked R9 280X. Overclocking would have solved this discrepancy in an instant.


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Below, we’ve included some scaling percentage comparisons between the HD 7970 GHz Edition / R9 280X hybrid setup and a standard HD 7970 GHz Edition Crossfire setup. Remember, a standard HD 7970 3GB would work here as well.


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Not only do these results point to excellent Crossfire scaling across a large number of games (minus Assassin’s Creed for which profiles still don’t exist) but they also represent hope for HD 7970 users who many not have the cash to buy another card right now. This isn’t an error on AMD’s part either that will be patched in the future; the multi-generational compatibility was fully intentional and will continue into the future. That’s great news for Radeon users.

We should also mention that “mixed” Crossfire compatibility between HD 7000-series parts and their updated R-series siblings spans AMD’s lineup. For example, the R9 270X can be paired up with an HD 7870 GHz and the R7 260X works happily alongside an HD 7790. Clock speeds will be tied at the hip in every instance with the slowest card dictating final frequencies but as we mentioned before, overclocking will mitigate any performance shortfall.

AMD could have easily locked out this compatibility in an effort to boost sales of their new cards. They didn't do that. Instead, they erred on the side of providing the best possible experience for their current and future customers. It also gives them a leg up on the NVIDIA competition since GeForce cards have never supported so-called “mixed” SLI even if two cards use the same core design. For example, a GTX 770 –which is essentially a rebranded and overclocked GTX 680- can’t be placed in SLI alongside its predecessor. In some ways at least, this makes Crossfire more versatile than SLI.

While inter-generational compatibility may not be utilized by the lion’s share of gamers, AMD should be applauded for allowing their current users to retain a clear upgrade path without discarding one of their most expensive components.

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http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...crossfire-r9-280x-hd-7970-scaling-tested.html


Good results but they're a little bit cpu bottlenecked in a couple of these benchmarks at 1080P, otherwise scaling would be even better in a couple of these titles. Hitman Absolution stands out as one such title that requires a good overclock to achieve 90%+ scaling according to my own testing at 1080P.
 
Would have been cool if they could have also included a 7950 7970 mixmatch where you might actually see a real difference.
 
Would have been cool if they could have also included a 7950 7970 mixmatch where you might actually see a real difference.

A 7950 will definitely crossfire with any of these cards, as well as a 7990 with no problems. Would have been nice if they'd tested that as well though, i agree.
 
I think I am correct in saying they are actually different cards and not just a re-brand? hence the different RAM size and amount of bits on the card (can't for the life of me think of the word).

Correct. I don't think you can crossfire a 270X with a 7950. A 270X is a pitcairn core and a 7950 is a Tahiti core.
 
I have a 280x and a 7950 would I get the same scaling?

As i understand it crossfire would run at the lowest cards clock speed, this can be mitigated easily via overclocking though. You would get excellent scaling as both are Tahiti cards, assuming the game in question supports crossfire.
 
As i understand it crossfire would run at the lowest cards clock speed, this can be mitigated easily via overclocking though. You would get excellent scaling as both are Tahiti cards, assuming the game in question supports crossfire.

It should be at least the same as running two HD 7950s and probably a little better.
 
As i understand it crossfire would run at the lowest cards clock speed, this can be mitigated easily via overclocking though. You would get excellent scaling as both are Tahiti cards, assuming the game in question supports crossfire.

It should be at least the same as running two HD 7950s and probably a little better.

Ok thanks,

Right now I have 280x and 7950 in my rig but I do have another 7950 in another rig so do you think I would be better off running 2x 7950 in one rig and then put my 280x in the other?
 
Interesting they mention that clock speeds for both cards will be set to the lower of the two - I've always understood Crossfire can run at two different speeds if the user wants. I know I used to be able to set my 5870s and 7970s when I crossfired them at different speeds if I wanted to.
 
Ok thanks,

Right now I have 280x and 7950 in my rig but I do have another 7950 in another rig so do you think I would be better off running 2x 7950 in one rig and then put my 280x in the other?

Leave things as they are, in theory the 280X should give a little bit more in CF with a 7950.
 
Ok thanks,

Right now I have 280x and 7950 in my rig but I do have another 7950 in another rig so do you think I would be better off running 2x 7950 in one rig and then put my 280x in the other?

Either will be fine. If you have a good clocking 7950 might be better off matching it up with a 280X. Otherwise though, just run the 2x7950's together.
Interesting they mention that clock speeds for both cards will be set to the lower of the two - I've always understood Crossfire can run at two different speeds if the user wants. I know I used to be able to set my 5870s and 7970s when I crossfired them at different speeds if I wanted to.

That used to be the case, guess they've changed it now. Could be because i think the new R280/R270/R260 series of cards have a slightly different pcb/vrm than 7xxx Tahiti/Pitcairn/Cape Verde cards.
 
Either will be fine. If you have a good clocking 7950 might be better off matching it up with a 280X. Otherwise though, just run the 2x7950's together.


That used to be the case, guess they've changed it now. Could be because i think the new R280/R270/R260 series of cards have a slightly different pcb/vrm than 7xxx Tahiti/Pitcairn/Cape Verde cards.

I think what it means if you just pop the cards in the clocks of the faster card will come down to the slower unless you specifically set them in CCC overdrive or AB, they dont have to run at the same clocks.
 
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