Intel stock coolers are fine for stock speeds and they are quiet, their CPU's certainly don't throttle out of the box. I'm not even sure why you've brought them into it other than to bash their prices, if anything it's AMD's stock CPU fans which are not fit for purpose and loud.
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TechSpot: 280X cooler on 290X, Dramatic improvment.
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Intel stock coolers are fine for stock speeds and they are quiet, their CPU's certainly don't throttle out of the box. I'm not even sure why you've brought them into it other than to bash their prices, if anything it's AMD's stock CPU fans which are not fit for purpose and loud.
Yep i agree. AMD should just ask HIS if they can use the same design and just change the colours/sticker.
Yep i agree. AMD should just ask HIS if they can use the same design and just change the colours/sticker.
+1. give the reference cooler contract to HIS, they know what they're doing.
They would just get even more stick because of the ugly big blower.
Iv'e had a few in the past-I just closed my eyes.
Its got a big head on it sure, i heard that was a good thing though.
Just close your eyes and think of England.
Not a bad should but could be a bit of a wait.
Just close your eyes and think of England.
Trying to mentally scar me now, thank god there is a bit of Italian in me to always keep the flag flying high.
What the hell was AMD thinking releasing these R 290's with these crappy reference designs, they always do this it's so annoying. 
Custom coolers from the start next time built by all manufacturers, stop feeding Sapphire with easy $$$$$!
Custom coolers from the start next time built by all manufacturers, stop feeding Sapphire with easy $$$$$!
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We've known this since the article was released 5 weeks ago.
I guess there are few that missed it but it's no great surprise that an after market cooler does a much better job than reference.
Just release them already
I guess there are few that missed it but it's no great surprise that an after market cooler does a much better job than reference.
Just release them already
Well if the underneath of a CPU is anything to go by, there is nothing in those corners.
Could always whack a thread up in the MM wanted section and see if anyone who put their 280X under water fancies parting with their cooler.
Echoing a quite a few of the responses in here, sometimes you really do have to wonder what AMD are up to, announcing the R9 then the wait for cards to actually appear, the whole exclusive BF4 editions debacle, the substandard cooler issue and the unnecessarily long wait for other vendor coolers.
The daft thing is the cards have good performance, they were introduced at good prices, but with so many issues that could so easily have been avoided. Any one of which would have just been unfortunate and not really harmed the cards too much but this many issues, you really have to wonder if something at AMD needs changing.
The daft thing is the cards have good performance, they were introduced at good prices, but with so many issues that could so easily have been avoided. Any one of which would have just been unfortunate and not really harmed the cards too much but this many issues, you really have to wonder if something at AMD needs changing.
AMD must get more cash for the 'reference' card, rather than just being paid for a 'core' for custom cards, otherwise there would have been custom cards released by now or on the 290 launch, they have been ready for long enough.
You do realise Overclocking electric burning PC users are a tiny fraction of the market yes?
Unless I have gotten really old and skipped something, wafers are round and you are spot on
The thing I find funny, is that they say "It's okay it runs at 95c, it was designed too". Silicon is silicon, running at 95c is going to see a much shorter life than running at 70c, we all know what they actually mean is "It's okay it runs at 95c, we have calculated that the amount that will fail before their warranty expires is acceptable". They must have watched the recent Litecoin explosion with one hell of a sense of dread
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You do understand that the 7990 cooler wouldn't actually fit on the pcb itself, it's too big, it's also designed for two gpu's and can't directly fit on to it.
The 7990 isn't going in any(or not many) OEM builds, it's too big, too power hungry and too expensive. The 290x will go in many, guys like Dell ask for blower fans, it's how they want them, it's why Nvidia do them as well.
Flat out Titan's cooler sucks compared to third party also, that is just how it is. If Dell, who order by the 1000's want something, they get it, it doesn't matter how stupid it is, they ask, they get, done, end of.
Blower fans ARE CRAP, it's as simple as that. A "good" blower fan is rated at, at max speed 10-12cfm, a small one like on gpu's is likely rated AT MAX speed, 7-8cfm. The fans on something like the IceQ are likely rated at 30-40cfm on low speed and could easily push 100cfm with the noise levels blowers can at max.
The lump of metal on a 290x is fine, the lack of airflow is what makes it cool "badly" yet, well enough. This won't be rectified by a different lump of metal, but by a different fan, but as Dell and co ask them for stupid exhausting blower fans(I have no idea why, everything the likes of Dell do mystify me in their stupidity, gaming rigs, sli 730's........ sure.....).
My 4870 and 4870x2, take card, take off shround, ziptie utterly silent 120mm fan on, massive drop in temps..... literally the same lump of metal, different airflow, silent/awesome cooling with bigger overclocks and more voltage.
Blowers are crap, normal fans are not. The best design heatsink with the worst fan, will be poor coolers, a "meh" heatsink with a great fan will be cooler and quieter.
The worst thing AMD was start using this folded fin design in their heatsinks as from the 4890 onwards you couldn't just take the shroud off and stick a fan on it, £5 for almost perfect cooling. When they changed the fins so they were bent over at the top preventing a fan blowing down into it, they ruined that £5 mod.
That is pretty unforgiveable, being unable to induce brilliant CFM from **** blower fans that the OEM's(who make up 98% of their sales/profit) insist on, I don't even care about.
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THey haven't been ready, they actually don't appear out of thin air, even vrm heatsinks with the right cooling capacity and clips need to actually be produced and they don't have their own factories just sitting around with equipment doing nothing, they order these devices and it takes time to tool for them then actually produce them. They take designs and have to test their designs to check how well they attach, to test over time for failure, etc, etc.
NO other launch has ever had third party coolers before this launch is set to. Other cards, 780gtx/780ti are NOT NEW CARDS< they are identical to Titan's(and were first in production as pcbs/cores around when the 680gtx went in to production.
The 280x is a 7970, the 7970 did not get non reference coolers within 6 weeks of launch, neither did the 680gtx, the 480gtx(the 580gtx again was the same design as the 480gtx), nor any Nvidia or AMD launch of an actually new product.
There is no delay, it's simply not instant, and never has been.
While you and I can take any heatsink and stick it on a 290x, a company actually producing them does more than take an old product and hope it works, and often do this thing where they try and improve on the previous design and do something new..... crazy as that is.
Utter codswallop, sorry DM but you really are talking nonsense.
Nvidia 680 announced march 22nd
gigabyte winforce3 version available to buy 4 weeks (27 days) later.
proof.
Anyway it has been over 11 weeks since the r9 290 series was announced.