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TechSpot: 280X cooler on 290X, Dramatic improvment.

bru said:
Utter codswallop, sorry DM but you really are talking nonsense.

Nvidia 680 announced march 22nd

gigabyte winforce3 version available to buy 4 weeks (27 days) later.

proof.
Anyway it has been over 11 weeks since the r9 290 series was announced.
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The 290X has only been out for 4 or 5 weeks.
 
MooMoo444 said:
Well if the underneath of a CPU is anything to go by, there is nothing in those corners.
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Gregster said:
Unless I have gotten really old and skipped something, wafers are round and you are spot on :)
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Nope, wafers are round, the cores inside aren't some cores may not be 'full' as such edge to edge, but others are-which would leave exposed parts in the context I was referring to.

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bru said:
Utter codswallop, sorry DM but you really are talking nonsense.

Nvidia 680 announced march 22nd

gigabyte winforce3 version available to buy 4 weeks (27 days) later.
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Doesn't mean they arrived in time ready for sale.

But the sample was at least ready as it was reviewed on the 8th April@guru3D, DM has a point that it takes time for testing/change designs, but AMD has the final say when they are released and they are very tight lipped this time round about firm release schedules,,,,*cough*-mining
 
tommybhoy said:
Doesn't mean they arrived in time ready for sale.

But the sample was at least ready as it was reviewed on the 8th April@guru3D, DM has a point that it takes time for testing/change designs, but AMD has the final say when they are released and they are very tight lipped this time round about firm release schedules,,,,*cough*-mining
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Well the image I posted above of the OCUK site on April 13th 2012 shows (as indicated by the red arrow) that they would be in stock by next Wednesday which would have been 27 days after the unveiling announcement on the 22nd march 2012, even if they were a week later than expected they still would have been under the 6 weeks that DM stated.

drunkenmaster said:
NO other launch has ever had third party coolers before this launch is set to.
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drunkenmaster said:
The 280x is a 7970, the 7970 did not get non reference coolers within 6 weeks of launch, neither did the 680gtx,
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Bottom line. Your quite right that it is up to AMD when they allow non reference cards, but they seem to have said not yet else we would have had them by now, if others can do it in 4 weeks before then it why would it take 11 weeks and counting unless AMD has said not yet.
 
bru said:
Well the image I posted above of the OCUK site on April 13th 2012 shows (as indicated by the red arrow) that they would be in stock by next Wednesday which would have been 27 days after the unveiling announcement on the 22nd march 2012, even if they were a week later than expected they still would have been under the 6 weeks that DM stated.




Bottom line. Your quite right that it is up to AMD when they allow non reference cards, but they seem to have said not yet else we would have had them by now, if others can do it in 4 weeks before then it why would it take 11 weeks and counting unless AMD has said not yet.
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Its not 11 weeks and counting, its 4 weeks and counting.
 
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Gregster said:
I can't remember what I had for breakfast and that was an hour ago :D

£480 is a lot for an AMD card. Is this the norm now?
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High demand from miners and supply unable to meet it has resulted in e-tailers milking the hell out of AMD prices. Though the used prices of HD7950/7970/7990 on a popular auction site are even sillier lol.
 
ubersonic said:
High demand from miners and supply unable to meet it has resulted in e-tailers milking the hell out of AMD prices. Though the used prices of HD7950/7970/7990 on a popular auction site are even sillier lol.
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Agreed on the used prices. I had a look being nosey and that is crazy.
 
humbug said:
Its not 11 weeks and counting, its 4 weeks and counting.
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So what I think your saying is that from 25th September to now is only 4 weeks, if that is the case I suggest you go ask somebody to explain how a calendar works and actually count of the days from then until now and redo your sums. :D


(2 more days and it will be 12 weeks)

Yes I know you were talking about the release date and not the announcement date so the above comment is really facetious. Even the release date was the 24th October which was 7 weeks ago (7 weeks 4 days), so your still wrong.

Anyway the fact that it took AMD 4 weeks from announcement to launch is yet another issue that they could have avoided, because I know how much we all hate those paper launches.
 
Slight off topic, but am I the only one that think that there's clearly a market opportunity for a reasonably quiet but effective blower type 3rd party cooler?

I mean the last 3rd decent part blower type cooler I could recall is the Akasa Vortexx Neo...it managed to drop the temp of my old 9800GTX+ from 85-90C on the stock cooler down to 65C while remain fairly quiet. But since the Vortexx Neo, there hasn't really been another decent (or any) 3rd party cooler released since. Sometimes I wonder if HIS should do a separate product line for making some decent 3rd party blower coolers (that are even better than the custom cooler they put on their cards) and sell them as standalone :p
 
MooMoo444 said:
Yes they seem to have crept back up. I was expecting them to go the other way with AMD cards being hot cakes at the moment and nvidia needing to make their own brand more appealing.
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I think Nvidia know that when the crypto bubble finally bursts the market is going to be absolutely flooded with used AMD cards, which means with high supply and low demand used prices will drop like rocks and that will hurt AMD's retail sales.


Marine-RX179 said:
Slight off topic, but am I the only one that think that there's clearly a market opportunity for a reasonably quiet but effective blower type 3rd party cooler?

I mean the last 3rd decent part blower type cooler I could recall is the Akasa Vortexx Neo...it managed to drop the temp of my old 9800GTX+ from 85-90C on the stock cooler down to 65C while remain fairly quiet. But since the Vortexx Neo, there hasn't really been another decent (or any) 3rd party cooler released since. Sometimes I wonder if HIS should do a separate product line for making some decent 3rd party blower coolers (that are even better than the custom cooler they put on their cards) and sell them as standalone :p
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I think the issue is since the Neo cards have become less standardized with VRM's in different places and stuff around the RAM. Of course a GPU only blower that doesn't cover the RAM like the Neo did would be cool when combined with some decent RAM/VRM sinks.
 
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Marine-RX179 said:
Slight off topic, but am I the only one that think that there's clearly a market opportunity for a reasonably quiet but effective blower type 3rd party cooler?
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I think it would sell well at times like these when aftermarket coolers are all the rage yes.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Slight off topic, but am I the only one that think that there's clearly a market opportunity for a reasonably quiet but effective blower type 3rd party cooler?
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Agreed. I think most people would want a cooler that takes the heat out of the case and for people like me who want a silent system when idle who buy cases like Silverstone FT03 can only use a blower type fan - this is the only reason i've stayed with nvidia the last few years due to their reference coolers being better.

Also i'm sure people wanting to do sli/xfire even with great cases and cooling would prefer a blower type fan.
 
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