BT implements porn blocking by default for all new customers

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Has all of this happened already with mobile phones? If not, why not? Adult content filters have been standard on mobiles for donkey's years.

It has, which makes this not exactly unexpected. I wonder how accurate the filters will be though. I remember Vodafone blocking the wikipedia page on World War 2 because it was "adult content".
 
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Has all of this happened already with mobile phones? If not, why not? Adult content filters have been standard on mobiles for donkey's years.

Yes it has been. But mobile phones are different to landline connections because home computers use NAT (network address translation) which meant it could be anyone requesting "dodgy" material. Typically a mobile phone is not used as a router and the person making internet requests is usually the bill payer.

With the introduction of internet exchange tapping they now know exactly where the data is headed and precisely which computer requested it after NAT traversal. Which is why this "protect the children" charade is now migrating to home broadband connections as well.
 
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I remember Vodafone blocking the wikipedia page on World War 2 because it was "adult content".

Bingo! This is the whole point, to make every citizen liable for something.

This charade will do more harm to the nation than good. Parents will start getting lazy, start allowing PCs in the kid's bedrooms because they trust David Cameron fallible porn filter. Porn will still be fully accessible by 99% of kids. While the poor old grandpas will be raging and forced to expel their sexual energy using other means. Maybe they'll start stealth-fapping in the park or tap into the gigabytes of child porn which won't have anything to do with David's filter. (yes I know that's the extreme end, but a potentially logical outcome nonetheless.)

I honestly cannot tell if the government is actually for the citizens any more. The retardation is so strong I simply cant tell if they're actually just retarded or have a completely ulterior and evil motive with this thing.
 
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The sky doesn't fall down until it actually does but if you leave it till it gets that far then we will ultimately loose.

In order for it not to get that far the public need to put there foot down now.
 
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The sky doesn't fall down until it actually does but if you leave it till it gets that far then we will ultimately loose.

In order for it not to get that far the public need to put there foot down now.

Completely agree, if we accept it under another guise we are the losers.

Think about it we have allowed the growth of CCTV usage, councils to use the anti-terrorism act to see who's leaving their bins out after collection, the list is long on the freedoms we have handed over to government since 9/11.

It's the thin end of the wedge

Remember 1984 was a work of fiction not a User Manual for governments
 
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Even if the internet gets blocked totally, what's going to happen? Like it is the 70's? :p

Erm....

You think they've created a multi-billion dollar internet surveillance facility, with enough storage to store months worth of internet transmission, enough computing power to break encryption keys within hours, heck even it's own water desalination plant and power plant, just so they can switch off the internet so they can take us back to the free 70's?

:confused:

Just shows how buried people's heads are. Truly terrifying stuff.
 
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Erm....

You think they've created a multi-billion dollar internet surveillance facility, with enough storage to store months worth of internet transmission, enough computing power to break encryption keys within hours, heck even it's own water desalination plant and power plant, just so they can switch off the internet so they can take us back to the free 70's?

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Just shows how buried people's heads are lol.

What are you on about?

When I said 70's, i didn't mean FREE 70's. I mean turn off your computer, no internet, and it doesn't stop you living your life and get your porn from the newsagent. lol

I also mean life goes on, whatever happens. Spying has always been there, always will be. Nothing going to change, no matter what the politician says. If it is you in power, you would do it too.
 
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Yes surveillance has been around since authorities have been. But that's not what we're worried about.

Were worried about having a profile on the worlds largest data processing plant. Yes a profiling supercomputer which has the ability to connect absolutely everybody in the western world to something illegal.

Yep, every personal joke you've sent on WhatsApp which is self incriminating, every time you've logged into your Gmail from a network where someone was searching for explosives earlier, every person that replied to my Mac-10 thread.

There's a difference between classical surveillance and this evil mass incrimination charade these guys are implementing. In 10-20 years they will be like "Everybody is a dodgy scum, we must install CCTV in your house, have GPS tracker factory installed in every car, seize ultimate control of the world, and remove what rights you have left" and the citizens will bend over backwards and be like "No problemo I don't have anything to hide".
 
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Yes surveillance has been around since authorities have been. But that's not what we're worried about.

Were worried about having a profile on the worlds largest data processing plant. Yes a profiling supercomputer which has the ability to connect absolutely everybody in the western world to something illegal.

Why worry about it? They will do it, why? Because they can.

It's human nature.

Even if they say they are not, they probably are.
Even if they make legislation to prevent it, they probably still are.
 
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One of the many reasons I will never go with BT

So glad I'm with a non commercial isp, still have free reign of everything else most people have blocked these days
 
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Yes surveillance has been around since authorities have been. But that's not what we're worried about.

Were worried about having a profile on the worlds largest data processing plant. Yes a profiling supercomputer which has the ability to connect absolutely everybody in the western world to something illegal.

Yep, every personal joke you've sent on WhatsApp which is self incriminating, every time you've logged into your Gmail from a network where someone was searching for explosives earlier, every person that replied to my Mac-10 thread.

There's a difference between classical surveillance and this evil mass incrimination charade these guys are implementing. In 10-20 years they will be like "Everybody is a dodgy scum, we must install CCTV in your house" and the citizens will bend over backwards and be like "No problemo I don't have anything to hide".

I totally agree with where you're coming from. The whole world is being centralised, and I also think a lower population is also part of the agenda. :)
 
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VPN BABY!!!!
less than £3/m and all your torrenting/porn/dodgy problems will go away.
:D:D

lol what?

Using a VPN to hide illegal activities is like dealing drugs in a police station or looking for a security guard to shoplift in front of. Clever.
 
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All old people who watch porn are peados? Wow that is a pretty broad brush stroke you applied just there.

I can't see where he said that.

Perhaps you should ask David Cameron why he thinks all internet users are either the bill payer or small children. :p
 
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Sounds like they have already defeated you.

"The People should not fear the Government. The Government should fear the People."


Why worry about it? They will do it, why? Because they can.

It's human nature.

Even if they say they are not, they probably are.
Even if they make legislation to prevent it, they probably still are.
 
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What you should worry about more is what you post on forums (your views) and Facebook which is infinitely more interesting if the political environment changes.
 
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