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Zethor said:
Replace "black man" with "white man" and "stupid woman" with "stupid man". The statements sound a bit odd now, because there is a subtle form of discrimination in the original form. We can even make the "white man" form sound racist if we imagine it came from a Japanese man living in his home country.

The tendency to describe the mugger as just "black", rather than making a more accurate description such as "tall/short, slim/well-built, black man" , shows repressed racism. Similarly, William Hague could have just used the word "stupid" and the message would've been the same. He added the word "woman" due to his repressed sexism.

Regarding the OP, mentioning that his neighbours are "ethnics" has no bearing on his report so, again, xenophobia or racism are lurking around the corner.
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I don't agree that replacing "white" with "black" and "man" for "woman" make those statements sound particularly odd, nor do I agree they highlight a discrimatory element to the originals.

You're right in saying Hague could have merely used the word "stupid" without referring to Jamieson's gender, but it's a bit of a leap to say that the inclusion of "woman" points to repressed sexism. If a kid does/says something silly, they're often called a "stupid boy" or "stupid girl" so why shouldn't the same rule apply to adults?

As for the mugging scenario, alluding to the mugger's ethnicity could be completely innocent and mentioned purely to offer greater description of the asailant. You're not saying the mugger's ethnicity was the reason he/she mugged you, you're just recognisisng it as a distinguishing feature.

I really do wonder why some people go to such lengths to shy away from all mention of race, as though it's completely taboo regardless of context. What are you afraid of exactly?
 
^^^ reminds me of the Jeremy Vine show on BBC R2 yesterday, they were discussing why Santa is portrayed as white and not black.

The woman said "he is black..... once he has finished climbing down the chimney" :eek:

DISGRACEFUL!!! Keyboards at the ready!!!!!
 
K-2 said:
As for the mugging scenario, alluding to the mugger's ethnicity could be completely innocent and mentioned purely to offer greater description of the asailant. You're not saying the mugger's ethnicity was the reason he/she mugged you, you're just recognisisng it as a distinguishing feature.

I really do wonder why some people go to such lengths to shy away from all mention of race, as though it's completely taboo regardless of context. What are you afraid of exactly?
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I can see it 5 years from now. Your statement? He was tall, slim and dark.

nick.lidgett said:
^^^ reminds me of the Jeremy Vine show on BBC R2 yesterday, they were discussing why Santa is portrayed as white and not black.

The woman said "he is black..... once he has finished climbing down the chimney" :eek:

DISGRACEFUL!!! Keyboards at the ready!!!!!
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Lol.
 
Neil79 said:
:p

Pretty much, the downside

4mbit v 20mbit here :(
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Is that the only downside? I am not being funny but if you can move back into the family home and the only downside (?!??!) is the slower internet connection then I think you have your priorities all wrong.

Internet connection over general well being and living conditions....hmmm.
 
Neil79 said:
:p

Pretty much, the downside

4mbit v 20mbit here :(
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If the speed of your internet is the only thing stopping you then I think you ought to get out more.

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This thread would have been very dull if it wasnt for the OPs poor choice of words and the huge amount of starry eyed, liberal dreamers on these forums.

10/10
 
knip said:
Doesn't mean racism is acceptable FnG, not under any circumstances.
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Someone uses the word Ethnic when posting about their personal issues and you want to focus on the word Ethnic, and turn them into a racist.

Perhaps you should try not to read in between the lines. It could be that OP finds people shouting in another language intimidating because he doesn't understand them and may find them harder to approach/talk to than someone who speaks his own language. In fact, there could be many reasons. Try asking him before making your own misinformed conclusions.
 
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gotta love ocuk. :D

basically you live in a crappy flat thats cheap so you get all the lovely crap that comes with it. first place i moved into with my missus well known for being a hell hole. smack heads upstairs arse next door it was like a battlezone :D

lead to entertaining times.either sort the situation out or move tbh.
 
Zethor said:
Replace "black man" with "white man" and "stupid woman" with "stupid man". The statements sound a bit odd now, because there is a subtle form of discrimination in the original form. We can even make the "white man" form sound racist if we imagine it came from a Japanese man living in his home country.

The tendency to describe the mugger as just "black", rather than making a more accurate description such as "tall/short, slim/well-built, black man" , shows repressed racism.

Regarding the OP, mentioning that his neighbours are "ethnics" has no bearing on his report so, again, xenophobia or racism are lurking around the corner.
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:rolleyes:

Do you not think a black victim of mugging would describe the mugger as a ''white man'', first and foremost?
 
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