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R9 290X TrueAudio VS Onboard Sound

only AMD TrueAudio is fully aware of the game’s positional and environmental data.

That's the quote from the interview, but please for give my ignorance, obviously any 3d positional audio systems that have come before this didn't have any access to positional or environmental data, how could I have been so stupid, please I beg you do not chastise me further for daring to speak my unworthy words against the god that is AMD.
 
We haven't we seen it for the last few years. Creative killed Aureal3D, Microsoft killed an accelerated sound stack, and developers can't be asked to deal with it in limited software that takes CPU cycles away from the main game.

TrueAudio provides a powerful DSP that ties in very closely with the 3D engine running on the card, and doesn't take CPU cycles away from the game.

Saddens me that very few developers even properly use Open AL as it doesn't take that long to get 3D audio and some tricks up and running to make ingame sound a ton more immersive - though at a basic level Open AL doesn't have the ability to process sound based on information about the world geometry around the sound :( I'm hoping thats something they fully push in TrueAudio or otherwise while binaural reproduction is nice its not really making the best use of what it can do.
 
Are the nay sayers working hard again Tommy, Drunken?

Unless you are going to use waterblocks on your 290X the audio capabilities of your system are not going to matter.

Imagine trying to listen to a Hi Fi system while your mum is doing the hoovering and I think you will get the point.

5 posts in and the first Troll Grenade is thrown.

Just get the AIB cards, they are very quiet.



http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/ASUS-Radeon-R9-290X-DirectCU-II-Graphics-Card-Review
 
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As he owns them I would think he allowed an opinion - hardly trolling

It was Kaap having a laugh as he has stated the sound ain't half as bad as it's being made out to be under normal use. There is a good video around with a guy comparing the fan on 100% to a hoover in another room which i think is where this joke comes from. They do sound pretty similar but again that's at 100% fan.
 
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Unless you are going to use waterblocks on your 290X the audio capabilities of your system are not going to matter.

Imagine trying to listen to a Hi Fi system while your mum is doing the hoovering and I think you will get the point.

As he owns them I would think he allowed an opinion - hardly trolling

He only has reference ones, he's ignoring the AIB cards and making a blanket statement.
 
It was Kaap having a laugh as he has stated the sound ain't half as bad as it's being made out to be under normal use. There is a good video around with a guy comparing the fan on 100% to a hoover in another room which i think is where this joke comes from. They do sound pretty similar but again that's at 100% fan.


Ahh, I see said the blind man :)
 
^^ PS I actually know what the 290 and 290X sound like % for % fan speed against my 470 SLI setup :P

You don't know what the AIB 290/X sound like, they haven't begun to ship yet, tho they are available to buy as of yesterday i think it was.

Reviewers say the AIB custom cards are quiet, Kaap is referring to his Reference cards with the Reference coolers, we all know they are loud.

We are no longer stuck with them, the custom cooler 290/X are available now, and they are quiet.
 
You don't know what the AIB 290/X sound like, they haven't begun to ship yet, tho they are available to buy as of yesterday i think it was.

Reviewers say the AIB custom cards are quiet, Kaap is referring to his Reference cards with the Reference coolers, we all know they are loud.

We are no longer stuck with them, the custom cooler 290/X are available now, and they are QUIETER.

Fixed :D
 
That's the quote from the interview, but please for give my ignorance, obviously any 3d positional audio systems that have come before this didn't have any access to positional or environmental data, how could I have been so stupid, please I beg you do not chastise me further for daring to speak my unworthy words against the god that is AMD.

Another person having something pointed out to them rather than say "opps I was wrong" decides to have a go at me.

I'm not defending AMD, I'm explaining to you what True Audio is as you don't seem to know but were making daft statements about it.

Firstly YOU claimed that AMD said only they know the data, they didn't say this.

Second where in what AMD said did they say first, or only? NO where, but in an game that supports AMD true audio, the level of positional data in the sound will be firstly, unmatched by anything in current games, and unmatched by any CURRENT solution. It also goes far beyond what EAX for instance did in the past.


Your standard 5.1 surround system DOES NOT have access to the same positional information, it does NOT replicate height, nor precise position in the x/y plane either. So no, to date nothing has offered this accuracy before. Your standard 5.1 surround system nor any audio cards I know can accurately process the sound to make it replicate the environment it is in. Indoors, outdoors, caves, echoes, outside at night, outside in the day, etc, etc.

No, current position 3d DOES NOT do this and True Audio will be the only thing in game that offers this.

The fact that you don't understand the difference is not my fault, neither did AMD claim to have come up with this tech, they licenced it and integrated it into a DSP on their gpu's.

Read up on True Audio before claiming AMD are making incorrect claims, and when you make these claims try and not make ones that aren't the ones quoted.

IE you say ONLY AMD have access to this data and made a big song and dance about the game having the data etc, AMD did not say this. You quoted the interview in which AMD did not say this. They said True Audio is the only way this data can be delivered, which is completely accurate, because nothing else available can deliver precise positional data.
 
You don't know what the AIB 290/X sound like, they haven't begun to ship yet, tho they are available to buy as of yesterday i think it was.

Reviewers say the AIB custom cards are quiet, Kaap is referring to his Reference cards with the Reference coolers, we all know they are loud.

We are no longer stuck with them, the custom cooler 290/X are available now, and they are quiet.

Its an aside from the point I'm making - but I do pretty much know what the AIB boards will sound like - I know what the WF3 sounds like when removing upto 450watt of heat.
 
If I am wrong ( and I often am) I am happy to say "ok I'm wrong", but when in the interview the AMD spokesperson says

That’s the beauty of operating at the level of the audio library: it’s the first stop in the audio process! And because it’s the first stop, only AMD TrueAudio is fully aware of the game’s positional and environmental data. We are alone in our ability to provide audio data that fully reflects the game’s goings on

I really don't see how that can be interpreted any other way than, AMD knows the data and nobody else does. the rest of the quote "We are alone in our ability to provide audio data that reflects the games going on". they are saying that nobody else has the data.
 
Its an aside from the point I'm making - but I do pretty much know what the AIB boards will sound like - I know what the WF3 sounds like when removing upto 450watt of heat.

Ah... yes, that old chest nut.

It draws no more power, is no warmer and no louder than the GTX 780TI. and it has similar performance.





 
The fact that you don't understand the difference is not my fault, neither did AMD claim to have come up with this tech, they licenced it and integrated it into a DSP on their gpu's.

My point is that as they have licenced the technology, means that another company outside of AMD has this technology as well, so they are not the only ones who can do it.
If it was their baby and their brainchild then they could be quite right to say only they can do it but they didn't invent the system that does this so they are not the only ones who can do it.
 
ROFL you do make me laugh how everything I say you read as a slight towards AMD.

The WF3 is a **** good cooler and utterly silent at normal levels and I know the volume levels it produces from experience with it all the way upto removing 450watt its max rated heat level not saying it will need to remove that from the 290 :D
 
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