Interesting factoids?

[D.P.]

You would because you wouldn't be voting with your money. Money is powerful.

Well as a vegan, it sucks paying astronomical water rates when my lifestyle choices mean I'm more than likely consuming a fraction of the water each month that my meat-eating friends are guzzling each day.

It's not sustainable. Our current water consumption drains aquifers around the world. Water tables are dropping drastically and wells are going dry.

http://water.org/water-crisis/water-facts/water/



How do you know if someone is not a vegan? They will tell this joke.

Fact: vegans have the IQ of desiccated earth work!


Your water rates are completely unrelated to the diet of anyone else. Rain falls from the sky, grass gore, cows eat grass. No where are you financially responsible as a vegan, those who do buy meat pay for any additional water costs when they actually buy the meat.




Maybe if you had more protein in your diet your brain wouldn't be mush!

 

[D.P.]

Meat is very heavily subsidised by the industry and government. That's why it's so cheap.

It takes 2,400 gallons of water to produce one pound of meat. On average 1 burger weighs 0.15625 lbs. If you eat 30 a year that's 4.6875 lb of meat. That's 11,250 gallons (51143.5 litres) of water for a £2 burger.

Average water consumption for a single household annually is 189 liters a day. That's £283 a year. 51143.5 litres (for 30 burgers a year) would cost around £76,579.

In the bigger picture you're using way more water than me to eat but we both pay the same price for water on this earth.

Sorry for the imperial/metric mix up. Bed time for me, night all.

Good job the water for the cows falls from the sky for free

 

[easyrider]

I can fart and burp at the same time...

 

[Angilion]

Fact: vegans have the IQ of desiccated earth work!


Your water rates are completely unrelated to the diet of anyone else. Rain falls from the sky, grass gore, cows eat grass. No where are you financially responsible as a vegan, those who do buy meat pay for any additional water costs when they actually buy the meat.




Maybe if you had more protein in your diet your brain wouldn't be mush!

It's possible to get adequate levels of protein from plants alone, even if you're heavily muscled and very active. You do need to mix 'n' match your plants though, because plant proteins don't contain the ratios you need to make your own proteins. But if you eat a suitable variety of plants, you can get enough of all the amino acids to make enough of all the proteins you need. It's not as onerous as it might seem, since a wide variety of plants are easily available nowadays and people tend to prefer a varied diet anyway.

Some other nutrients (e.g. calcium) are a problem, but you can get enough if you know what plants to eat and eat enough of them.

It could be said that eating a completely animal-free diet forces you to eat more healthily because you have to know more about nutrition and take more care with your diet.

The only thing you absolutely can't get from plants is B12 and deficiency in that will ruin you slowly...so slowly that you might not notice until permanent damage is done. It'll degrade your quality of life in a very insidious way. If you're on a complete animal-free diet, you have to either eat a suitable kind of dung (many animals excrete B12 in their dung) or take B12 supplements. Personally, I'd go for the supplements.

 

[chief barker]

The only thing you absolutely can't get from plants is B12 and deficiency in that will ruin you slowly...so slowly that you might not notice until permanent damage is done. It'll degrade your quality of life in a very insidious way. If you're on a complete animal-free diet, you have to either eat a suitable kind of dung (many animals excrete B12 in their dung)

Hmm medium rare steak or dung?

I'll take the steak please and enjoy my life thanks.

What a load of crap! literally.

 

[D.P.]

It's possible to get adequate levels of protein from plants alone, even if you're heavily muscled and very active. You do need to mix 'n' match your plants though, because plant proteins don't contain the ratios you need to make your own proteins. But if you eat a suitable variety of plants, you can get enough of all the amino acids to make enough of all the proteins you need. It's not as onerous as it might seem, since a wide variety of plants are easily available nowadays and people tend to prefer a varied diet anyway.

Some other nutrients (e.g. calcium) are a problem, but you can get enough if you know what plants to eat and eat enough of them.

It could be said that eating a completely animal-free diet forces you to eat more healthily because you have to know more about nutrition and take more care with your diet.

The only thing you absolutely can't get from plants is B12 and deficiency in that will ruin you slowly...so slowly that you might not notice until permanent damage is done. It'll degrade your quality of life in a very insidious way. If you're on a complete animal-free diet, you have to either eat a suitable kind of dung (many animals excrete B12 in their dung) or take B12 supplements. Personally, I'd go for the supplements.

I never said you couldn't get sufficient protein from vegetables, only Nate silver's hilarious ramblings can only be the result of a deficient mind.

Protein is a critical component of brain development, Nate's complete and utter stupidity may well be a result of malnourishment and protein deprivation, or i may have simply made a little quip...

 

[chief barker]

I never said you couldn't get sufficient protein from vegetables, only Nate silver's hilarious ramblings can only be the result of a deficient mind.

Protein is a critical component of brain development, Nate's complete and utter stupidity may well be a result of malnourishment and protein deprivation, or i may have simply made a little quip...

You're talking dung too

 

[Destination]

This one is true.

Most vegans have no idea where they get their Vitamin B12 from.

Similarly, most seem to think that meat is produced using water derived from the standard water supply, and that water once used is gone, and isn't automatically recycled into those who eat the meat and subsequently pass it.

Fruit and vegetables utilise no water at all in their production, especially bananas.

 

[GTanny]

But..

bacon

+1

 

[dowie]

Meat is very heavily subsidised by the industry and government. That's why it's so cheap.

It takes 2,400 gallons of water to produce one pound of meat. On average 1 burger weighs 0.15625 lbs. If you eat 30 a year that's 4.6875 lb of meat. That's 11,250 gallons (51143.5 litres) of water for a £2 burger.

Average water consumption for a single household annually is 189 liters a day. That's £283 a year. 51143.5 litres (for 30 burgers a year) would cost around £76,579.

firstly your maths is wrong, secondly your comparison is flawed to begin with - domestic water supply has to go through a network of pipes, be filtered, treated, have chemicals added etc...

Water used in farming animals... well some % of it simply falls from the sky, yes the farms also have a water supply but what is the infrastructure for that like in comparison to lots of homes....

In the bigger picture you're using way more water than me to eat but we both pay the same price for water on this earth.

We pay similar rates for domestic water use yes... the water used in meat production has got nothing to do with what you pay for water you directly use

 

[ExRayTed]

Fact 1: This vegan debate is very tedious

Fact 2: A bullet dropped and a bullet fired from a gun parallel to the ground at the same height and at the same time as each other, will both hit the ground at the same time.

Fact 3: An aeroplane travelling down an imaginary conveyor belt that matched the planes speed in the opposite direction will achieve flight.

Fact 4: A sandwich cut in half is actually still one sandwich

Fact 5: Yes, 0.99r does equal 1

 

[Tefal]

I never said you couldn't get sufficient protein from vegetables, only Nate silver's hilarious ramblings can only be the result of a deficient mind.

Protein is a critical component of brain development, Nate's complete and utter stupidity may well be a result of malnourishment and protein deprivation, or i may have simply made a little quip...

interestingly b12 deficiency affects the mind

 

[Von Smallhausen]

If the Sun and our nearest neighbour Proxima Centari were the size of grains of sand, in scale distance they'd be five miles apart.

 

[Von Smallhausen]

The longest distance sniper kill was by British soldier Craig Harrison in Afghanistan in 2009. He took out two Taliban at a distance of 2475 metres which is over a mile and a half.

 

[Tefal]

i thoguht the Canadian had beat him now?

 

[Von Smallhausen]

Other way around Tefal. The Brit beat the Canadian and did it without a .50 as well.

 

[MickeyFinns]

Good pub quiz question... What five countries does Spain share a land border with?

Most people will say France and Portugal and plenty will say Gibralatar/UK too. A few will get Andorra but then most will be stuck. Due to some enclaves Morocco is the final point.

Also what two countries on earth are doubly landlocked? Liechtenstein and Uzbekistan.

 

[Tefal]

Other way around Tefal. The Brit beat the Canadian and did it without a .50 as well.

ahhh

is his the one where the flight time was ~3 seconds?

 

[Angilion]

If the Sun and our nearest neighbour Proxima Centari were the size of grains of sand, in scale distance they'd be five miles apart.

On a related "change the scale to get a better understanding of the distances" note;

If you made an accurately scaled model of an atom with the nucleus the size of a football, the electron(s) would be several miles away.

 

[Sliver]

Here's a factoid for the true believers:

Young Earth creationists believe that the Earth is about 6 thousand years old. The actual age of the Earth is about 4.6 billion years old. This is not a trivial error. It's the equivalent of believing that the entire width of North America is about 8 yards.