Intellectual property and copyright etc

Energize · 30 Dec 2013 at 00:52

Yes, it's certainly an arrogant attitude for uni's to take considering the amount that students are paying for tuition, and then they try to fleece students for their work too!

BigglesPiP · 30 Dec 2013 at 01:19

manic111 said:
I'm not sure of the process for getting a patent invalidated though.

Tell me, I get a bounty for debunking other conpany's patents. :-D

Scythe · 30 Dec 2013 at 02:21

Energize said:
Yes, it's certainly an arrogant attitude for uni's to take considering the amount that students are paying for tuition, and then they try to fleece students for their work too!

Universities are cash cows.

D.P. · 30 Dec 2013 at 03:05

Energize said:
Yes, it's certainly an arrogant attitude for uni's to take considering the amount that students are paying for tuition, and then they try to fleece students for their work too!

Most of the ideas that students arrive at are seeded by the lectures and only become interesting through extensive supervisor support.

delta0 · 30 Dec 2013 at 09:00

No you can't gain anything. However depending on how strong the simularities are to yours it may stop them gaining a patent.

Energize · 30 Dec 2013 at 14:14

D.P. said:
Most of the ideas that students arrive at are seeded by the lectures and only become interesting through extensive supervisor support.

Which is paid for by the student...

This is ofc ignoring students who are already professionals and are just at uni to get a degree, where the uni has nothing to due with the students ideas.

BigglesPiP said:
Copyright doesn't cover the invention, just that document.

Yes, I believe I implied that in my first post.

D.P. · 30 Dec 2013 at 15:38

Energize said:
Which is paid for by the student...

This is ofc ignoring students who are already professionals and are just at uni to get a degree, where the uni has nothing to due with the students ideas.

Yes, I believe I implied that in my first post.

The student having paid is completely irrelevant. Students pay for the education they receive, if they pay at all. Scottish students won't have paid a penny. Even at English institutes the costs are massively subsidized by the tax payers. By your logic if money had anything to do with this the government or tax payers would maintain the majority interest in IP.

delta0 · 30 Dec 2013 at 16:34

D.P. said:
The student having paid is completely irrelevant. Students pay for the education they receive, if they pay at all. Scottish students won't have paid a penny. Even at English institutes the costs are massively subsidized by the tax payers. By your logic if money had anything to do with this the government or tax payers would maintain the majority interest in IP.

First degrees are generally subsidised. I'm not sure second degrees or post graduate education is unless it has a sponsoring body like the EPSRC etc. Either way patents are extremely expensive and unlikely for a student to get one.

Burnsy2023 · 30 Dec 2013 at 16:42

It's funny, people seem to think that ideas are valuable. Implementations are the thing that make huge money, not ideas.

Energize · 30 Dec 2013 at 16:43

D.P. said:
The student having paid is completely irrelevant. Students pay for the education they receive, if they pay at all. Scottish students won't have paid a penny. Even at English institutes the costs are massively subsidized by the tax payers. By your logic if money had anything to do with this the government or tax payers would maintain the majority interest in IP.

Students pay £9k a year for a first degree, further degrees are not subsidised. In either case the uni is being paid for the service and should not try to steal the IP.