A "Cycling Utopia"

[DOD]Asprilla;25573789 said:
I'm covered for £5m personal liability on my house and contents (and another £2m on my bank account).

My house insurance covers "Personal Liability" but it doesnt apply when i'm cycling my bike.
Mine says: "We will pay for all amounts you become legally liable to pay as damages, in your capacity as owner of your home"

I cant see how house insurance would cover you for general liability in any situation? You wouldnt need car insurance if that was the case?
 
Back to the original topic.

It seems like a good idea. What gets me is the staggering costs that are being quoted for it!

£55 Million/Mile is nearly double the costs of building a Motorway!:eek: and when you factor in the fact that no grading work is going to be needed (It is just mostly a lightweight viaduct built over existing railways) where the hell is all the money going??

It is like HS2! There seems to be some sort of bizarre competition on for seeing who can propose the most preposterously expensive project for infrastructure improvements! (Its mostly only taxpayers money after all) :(

Not to mention the TWENTY years being bandied about. We all know that would be closer to 30 years IRL, why so long?
 
It looks great, and I'm sure it would be a well used addition to the transport system.

However, 20 years to complete? Why do infrastructure projects take so long in this country.
 
[DOD]Asprilla;25573015 said:
Light are law. You are given until 30 minutes after dusk before you have to use them.

Also IIRC certain reflectors are meant to be fitted on all new bikes by law.

It's a pity some fools seem to remove them around here, as I regularly see a a couple of wannabe organ donors riding around in the dark, on an unlit road, wearing dark clothes without even the reflectors that tend to be fitted to the pedels, and when turning no sign of a reflector on the wheels either.
Half the time the only reason I spot them at a distance is that I become aware of an idiot shaped bit of darker shadow ahead of me, and I'm extremely cautious on that stretch of road because I know it's used by the idiots, and that there is a good chance of wildlife on it at certain times (I hate the road in question for various reasons as it's a nasty one for visibility at times, and quite tight, sharp bends that are easy to underestimate).

It's only a matter of time they make the headlines as the result of a motorist hitting them (and of course it won't be their fault in any way, it'll be the nasty motorist at fault), or more likely given it's a national limit road, probably the obits :(
 
serious question, do you cycle? if do and do it quite often that I'd say you live in a city where majority of cyclists jump red light.. if you don't then I'd say you don't have the same view I do :) I wouldn't do it in a car for simple reason - I don't want points on my license plus I'm sitting behind a wheel of a 2 tone metal box that can kill instantly, as a cyclist I would need to be going crazy fast to kill or seriously injure a pedestrian.

People have been killed falling backwards and cracking their heads open on the pavement after being punched, you don't need to be going fast at all.
 
People have been killed falling backwards and cracking their heads open on the pavement after being punched, you don't need to be going fast at all.

you still gotta see my point.. would you rather I hit you with my bike at 20mph or a car hits you at 20 mph? which one would you prefer more? people have died while sleeping doesn't mean that a car and bike have the same chance of killing a person or seriously injuring them :o
 
My house insurance covers "Personal Liability" but it doesnt apply when i'm cycling my bike.
Mine says: "We will pay for all amounts you become legally liable to pay as damages, in your capacity as owner of your home"

I cant see how house insurance would cover you for general liability in any situation? You wouldnt need car insurance if that was the case?

Mine covers accidental damage to other people's property outside the home.
 
you still gotta see my point.. would you rather I hit you with my bike at 20mph or a car hits you at 20 mph? which one would you prefer more? people have died while sleeping doesn't mean that a car and bike have the same chance of killing a person or seriously injuring them :o

Just saying that all you have to do is knock someone over and they're at the risk of pretty serious injury, I'd rather not be hit by either at 20mph. Seen a pedestrian (his fault) get hit at a fair speed by a cyclist and it wasn't pretty.
 
The Department for Transport guidelines suggest that cyclists DO NOT use cycle paths if they ride over 18mph.s

That was the funny thing, it was rush hour and traffic was at a stand still he couldn't get anywhere near that speed lol

I believe cyclists should only cycle where they can meet the speed limit and i'm a biker my self.

MW
 
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Also IIRC certain reflectors are meant to be fitted on all new bikes by law.

It's a pity some fools seem to remove them around here, as I regularly see a a couple of wannabe organ donors riding around in the dark, on an unlit road, wearing dark clothes without even the reflectors that tend to be fitted to the pedels, and when turning no sign of a reflector on the wheels either.
Half the time the only reason I spot them at a distance is that I become aware of an idiot shaped bit of darker shadow ahead of me, and I'm extremely cautious on that stretch of road because I know it's used by the idiots, and that there is a good chance of wildlife on it at certain times (I hate the road in question for various reasons as it's a nasty one for visibility at times, and quite tight, sharp bends that are easy to underestimate).

It's only a matter of time they make the headlines as the result of a motorist hitting them (and of course it won't be their fault in any way, it'll be the nasty motorist at fault), or more likely given it's a national limit road, probably the obits :(

Many cyclists will use clipless pedals, which usually come without reflectors on them so it may not be a case of them willingly removing the reflectors, just not realising they are no longer there.

I'd rather have a bright red light on the back of my bike than some little reflectors under my feet anyway.

Unlight cyclists at night are a pain on country roads though, I'm surprised I haven't hit one of them yet tbh with how hard they are to see.
 
That was the funny thing, it was rush hour and traffic was at a stand still he couldn't get anywhere near that speed lol

I believe cyclists should only cycle where they can meet the speed limit and i'm a biker my self.

MW

Just as soon as the same is imposed to drivers, fed up of driving in an NSL road where it is safe to do 60mph to have someone doing 30mph, heck I've gone faster than 30mph on my bike.

It is a speed limit, not a speed target.
 
Also IIRC certain reflectors are meant to be fitted on all new bikes by law.

It's a pity some fools seem to remove them around here, as I regularly see a a couple of wannabe organ donors riding around in the dark, on an unlit road, wearing dark clothes without even the reflectors that tend to be fitted to the pedels, and when turning no sign of a reflector on the wheels either.

Wheel reflectors are usually removed because they can do more harm than good.
 
Lately as a regular cyclist I've been paying attention to drivers.. And you can see 2-3 cars at once jumping red lights quite often.. :) its odd that just the cyclist gets marked as the 'redlightjumper'

Hah, agreed. I remember one time I was on my bike, I stopped at a red light, and some BMW came up behind me, passed me and went right on through. I remember thinking "hey, that's what I'm supposed to do, not you!" :D

As for the article. It'll take twenty stinking years to complete? What the actual cluck?
 
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