780ti's or 290x's for 1440p?

[James J]

As title really, planning on getting a new PC and might watercool it also. Primary game would be BF4 so mantle interests me, but would I see any major difference between 2 of each card?

 

[kefan77]

if you got the cash, Ti for sure.

It's the fastest. Good enough reason for me.

there's lot of talking about Mantle, yet nothing tangible.

 

[jrodga2k5]

if you got the cash, Ti for sure.

It's the fastest. Good enough reason for me.

Yup...if you got it...flaunt it

 

[James J]

if you got the cash, Ti for sure.

It's the fastest. Good enough reason for me.

But is mantle going to change that? That's what worries me as I'd hate to splash the cash on two ti's and then see mantle change the field of play lol.

 

[JediFragger]

Then you're in the same boat as us all, a waiting game...

 

[kefan77]

who knows. I personally wouldn't base purchase of the GPU atm on Mantle.

but tbh, with 780Ti in SLI and possibly 4770K you don't have to worry about Mantle at all.

 

[Geeman1979]

780ti's

 

[whyscotty]

YOUR BASKET
2 x EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Dual Classified HydroCopper 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (03G-P4-3789-KR) £539.99 (£899.98)
Total : £1,089.58 (includes shipping : £8.00).

 

[Geeman1979]

Another good option ^^^

 

[James J]

YOUR BASKET
2 x EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Dual Classified HydroCopper 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (03G-P4-3789-KR) £539.99 (£899.98)
Total : £1,089.58 (includes shipping : £8.00).

You recommend that over the ti?

 

[old gamer]

A pair of 290's would be my choice, about £700 and 4gig of memory

 

[Geeman1979]

Over the vanilla Ti

I would if you're contemplating water cooling.

 

[TheRealDeal]

If water cooling and bf4 then i would get the 290x. The 780 ti will offer a few extra fps in most but in bf4 with mantle i reckon the 290x will be faster. We don't know what mantle will bring apart from up to 45%. Even half this on a water cooled system would put the 290x crossfire ahead. If it was stock air cooling i would say the 780ti would have a decent case.

 

[whyscotty]

You recommend that over the ti?

In game you won't see a big difference.

Saves you putting blocks on and has the same 3gb of vram.

Plus I've just bought 2 myself to run a 1440 monitor

 

[Gregster]

Another vote for the 780 Classy. Awesome cards and a great company. If buying 2, you will not give a hoot about Mantle, as they will eat BF4 easily

 

[Rusty0611]

If water cooling and bf4 then i would get the 290x. The 780 ti will offer a few extra fps in most but in bf4 with mantle i reckon the 290x will be faster. We don't know what mantle will bring apart from up to 45%. Even half this on a water cooled system would put the 290x crossfire ahead. If it was stock air cooling i would say the 780ti would have a decent case.

Mantle is almost pointless on a 1440p crossfire 290X set up. You're going to have well in excess of 100-120 FPS in BF4 at max settings if you overclock them. And that's without Mantle. So considering the mass majority of monitors are 60 Hz at 1440p (some overclock to 90-100 Hz) then the extra frames from Mantle won't even get displayed on the monitor or make a difference really.You won't want the screen tearing generally so would be vsync capped. I can't game on my 1440p monitor with vsync off - it's horrendous. Even if I overclock it. My 120 Hz monitor never runs games with vsync on.

If it was single 290X vs 780Ti then sure factor Mantle in but I can't see it many much difference on a dual overclocked set up.

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So my advice OP would be grab either a couple of 780s or 780Ti's. You aren't going to worrying about frame rates for a long time with those cards.

 

[James J]

Thanks guys, that's sound advice.

 

[DrBombcrater]

Mantle is almost pointless on a 1440p crossfire 290X set up. You're going to have well in excess of 100-120 FPS in BF4 at max settings if you overclock them. And that's without Mantle. So considering the mass majority of monitors are 60 Hz at 1440p (some overclock to 90-100 Hz) then the extra frames from Mantle won't even get displayed on the monitor or make a difference really.

You're rather missing the point of Mantle: it isn't to merely get better frame rates (although the early Mantle patches of existing graphics engines will concentrate on that) it's to make possible levels of complexity and detail that just isn't possible today, not even if you throw multpile 290Xs or 780s at it.

I highly recommend watching the presentation by the Oxide guys, who are working on a native Mantle supporting engine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIWyf8Hyjbg&hd=1

 

[chaparral]

But is mantle going to change that? That's what worries me as I'd hate to splash the cash on two ti's and then see mantle change the field of play lol.

I see mantle as a waste of time as by the time I need more FPS the new gen GPU's will be out to upgrade too...

 

[Rusty0611]

You're rather missing the point of Mantle: it isn't to merely get better frame rates (although the early Mantle patches of existing graphics engines will concentrate on that) it's to make possible levels of complexity and detail that just isn't possible today, not even if you throw multpile 290Xs or 780s at it.

I highly recommend watching the presentation by the Oxide guys, who are working on a native Mantle supporting engine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIWyf8Hyjbg&hd=1

No thanks . It's 45 mins long - I'd rather pull my toenails out.

I'm not missing the point of it I purposefully chose to ignore it as there's absolutely no detail on when those kind of improvements will actually show up in games and what they'll be. So basing a GPU purchase on a maybe in an unknown amount of time would not be sound logic in my view. I was also responding along the lines of BF4 which TheRealDeal was talking about.

You're welcome to think differently of course and offer some different advice to the OP.