what's up with these pay 20 pounds to play buggy zombie survival games

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I just don't get all the hype?? You pay for something which is Alpha and barely playable, and now everyone is in on it with dime a dozen being released. IMO they all cash cows. What are your views and why??

I know I'm staying well away from them? Might be tempted to buy a finished product, but i have a feeling they will never finish them.

I guess each to their own
 
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It's not just zombie games, there seems to be a whole glut of early access games on steam at the moment. Like you I'm wary of dropping £20 on an unfinished product which could take a direction I don't like. But I have bought early access games in the past but for no more than £10.
 
Personally, I love seeing the game evolve. 7 days to die has some bugs, but I played it yesterday relatively bug free. I don't really agree that we should pay the full price of a game though. We're pretty much testing the game and trying to help fix bugs. It should be discounted.
 
As with Post #2, its hard not to have noticed all the early access games hitting steam recently of late. I confess to not liking the very idea of it all one bit - especially Day-Z which will never sodding see light of day as a full product the way things are going.
 
Minecraft did it and made gazillions of dollars. Everyone wants a piece of that pie.
 
JeffH said:
Minecraft did it and made gazillions of dollars. Everyone wants a piece of that pie.
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Minecraft was something like a tenner for early adopters and it had no where near as many issues as some of these zombie titles.

DayZ probably will become epic but again in the time it will take them to iron out all the issues people will have lost interest and moved on.
 
its a game type most want but no one has really pulled it off to the polished effective game most want.

dayz is closest and why many play it but rust is doing okay rest are pretty much cheap cashins like warz,nether,dead lingor and the like.

next one what does look big is the forest and looks very slick.

out of the bunch i think rust and the dayz standalone will hold on rest will just fail.
 
rust controls and movement makes dayz look like a big joke.
it's just a pity the game world isn't as interesting so far
 
Remember playing the Dayz mod and had quite good fun with it.

There is no way I would pay £20 for a game that has more bugs than that mod, even if it is in Alpha.

I WILL play this game.... just not in it's current state.
 
A fool is easy parted with there money.

Even when there released there still bug ridden bits of crap. Better off putting the cash in a ISA and earn 1p interest.
 
I wouldn't call the games that actually warn you not to buy 'cash cows' tbh (e.g rust), only reason Garry released it for early access was to get feedback and allow the community to shape the game.

I haven't put any money into a early access game yet, haven't spotted anything worth investing in. I do think the companies should do what Bohemia done with ArmA III, £15 for alpha, £25 beta? £40 RRP for a finished product.

At least with a beta its close to full release and you wouldn't have to wait long, so you get it at a reduced price.
 
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caz32 said:
I wouldn't call the games that actually warn you not to buy 'cash cows' tbh (e.g rust), only reason Garry released it for early access was to get feedback and allow the community to shape the game.

I haven't put any money into a early access game yet, haven't spotted anything worth investing in. I do think the companies should do what Bohemia done with ArmA III, £15 for alpha, £40 RRP for a finished product.
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not for the massive amount of money to be made then ? :p so gullible man game companies love people like you :D

garry could have released it for free if that was the case oh no that's right its 15 quid....:D shaping his bank balance :D
 
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I wouldn't call the games that actually warn you not to buy 'cash cows' tbh (e.g rust), only reason Garry released it for early access was to get feedback and allow the community to shape the game.

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I agree. DayZ SA has the following description on steam:

WARNING: THIS GAME IS EARLY ACCESS ALPHA. PLEASE DO NOT PURCHASE IT UNLESS YOU WANT TO ACTIVELY SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT OF THE GAME AND ARE PREPARED TO HANDLE WITH SERIOUS ISSUES AND POSSIBLE INTERRUPTIONS OF GAME FUNCTIONING.

Rusts description:

What the developers say:
“We are in very early development. Some things work, some things don't. We haven't totally decided where the game is headed - so things will change. Things will change a lot. We might even make changes that you think are wrong. But we have a plan. It's in our interest to make the game awesome - so please trust us.”

Don't want to support? Don't buy it.
 
I bought DayZ, I enjoy seeing a game come together. I agree, £20 was a bit too much but I'm happier my money go to them rather than the latest BF, COD or FIFA, which are basically full priced map/weapon/player packs.
 
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not for the massive amount of money to be made then ? :p so gullible man game companies love people like you :D

garry could have released it for free if that was the case oh no that's right its 15 quid....:D shaping his bank balance :D
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He did though.. People who were in the 'closed' alpha, got the full game for free. It was around the 200k user mark and he obviously wanted to expand the user base etc so got into talks with valve.

And tbf, he was the only person hosting servers at the time for it and obviously bandwidth costs money, millionaire or not.
 
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I learned my lesson with WarZ, said never again would I pay for an alpha/beta.....

Last week I bought Planetary Annihilation £26 :eek::p but to be fair I did my research, watched videos and perused their forums.

If it's a game you've had an interest in for years, or you have followed it's development from beginning it's sometimes hard not to get involved.

The problem is everyone has jumped on the 'sell unfinished product promise the world' bandwagon, with more than most failing or not communicating with their backers.
 
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I learned my lesson with WarZ, said never again would I pay for an alpha/beta.....
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lol I paid something like £1.86 for that and still regretted it, started it up crashed, started it up played for 5 mins crashed. Uninstall, wish I could delete it from my library ha :p
 
~>Dg<~ said:
dayz is closest and why many play it but rust is doing okay rest are pretty much cheap cashins like warz,nether,dead lingor and the like.
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Oh? I remember when people complained that WarZ used many assets from their other game War Inc. correct me if I'm wrong but doesnt DayZ SA use every single asset it has from ARMA 2 with the exception of a few items of clothing? Another issue people had was the slow development WarZ had to begin with, sparse patches etc... hello? Standalone offers nothing but a new UI and clothing options, and a huge range of brand spanking new bugs. No idea what Rocket is doing but in the time that the game has been released nothing at all has been done to progress it. From what I've played and heard about Nether & Dead Linger, they aren't half the cash ins that DayZ is. Who takes 2 years to rip a map out of a game, change the UI and allow character customization?

I'm sorry but I'm just sick and tired at this point of all the stick that the other clones get while DayZ rides by doing nothing because of it's fanboy fanbase. It's already bought in 16 odd million for BiS yet the game isn't progressing in its development at all? No idea how you can claim anything is a cash in with DayZ being in the sorry state it is in compared to the mod after 2 years, having little to no development progression several weeks later and bringing in that kind of money when it 100% reuses assets of another game.

Nether, Dead Linger and even WarZ built their own worlds from scratch, built most of the assets from scratch, coded the engines from scratch (except WarZ), and released in better working order than DayZ in a fraction of the development time. They didn't just rip a map and engine from an existing game, build a few apartment blocks and a new UI and slap a £20 price tag on it (moving up to £30 on release). Say what you want about the warning but the developers aren't paying attention to the community regarding features and bugs and they knew full well hundreds of thousands of people would jump on it, as they have. Unless things change and DayZ actually gets some progression in the next few months (doubtful, other than some minor patches and large character wipes), then DayZ has easily become the biggest cashin. Least amount of effort from the creators part and the largest profit of them all.

Heck, even the melee weapons in DayZ are still reskinned guns! Pretty sure all of the 'cash ins' you mentioned had fully functional melee from the get go.
 
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dayz everyone should know is not listening to the community.

go watch the totalbiscuit dayz video where he plays with rocket for about an hour.

rockets game , rockets vision he seems pretty honest about that.

the gaming community is not always right anyway listening to the community has ruined loads of games
 
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