Looks like this guy got the book thrown at him big time...

£60 victim surcharge? lol what victim? there was no incident? :p

When I had my infamous red light incident, and was taken to court, my eventual fine ended up being £55, with a victim surcharge of £60. It annoyed me a tad but I got off lightly so I do not mind that much :D
 
I am going to go with the "Devils Advocate" here! :D

Where is the objective evidence that he "Was not in adequate control of the vehicle" ??

Seems to me that his prosecution/conviction is essentially an....

"I cannot walk and chew gum at the same time, so therefore I don't believe You can either!"

type argument!

Him driving his car with his knees isn't so much different from the situation that many disabled drivers in "Adapted" cars find themselves in (I doubt if a disabled driver controlling his car with a joystick will be able to react as well to a "Ninja Badger" or blow out as an "able bodied" one either, but does that mean he is "Dangerous"?? )

ISTR a story from some years ago. It is probably no longer the case but, according to the story, the Germans didn't, at that time, have specific DUI legislation. the rule was about whether or not the driver was in "control" of the vehicle.

This particular case involved a driver who the police attempted to stop because they thought that he had had too much. However he then managed to evade the police for over three hours!

Now, I have no doubt that he subsequently had his ass nailed to the wall for many other reasons but.....!

He was acquitted of DUI on the grounds that somebody who was capable of evading the Police for such a period of time was clearly in "control" of his Vehicle! ;)
 
why would you need to change direction on a straight bit of road ? even if a phantom badger jumps out swerving is often the worst thing to do

i assume his feet are on the pedals rather than on the dashboard therefore braking still happens

most of you who do 100 everywhere or drifting off every roundabout are far more dangerous than this guy IMO

too many IF's in this whole case. if he was swerving about or he crashed then yea do him for dangerous driving. but he didnt
what if o/s/f blow out
 
Whilst I agree this guy is completely in the wrong, I'm not sure comparing "what you'd do in a driving test" to "what we do in the real world" is a great example.

So the real world is a world where people drive with their knees?

If I scratched my crotch while on my driving test I would fail, doesn't stop me doing it every day.

No you wouldn't.
 
I cant help thinking he thought "oh look speed camera van lets have laugh". Anyone with decent common sense would just not do that. Yes we've all had hands of steering wheels and done things we shouldn't of, but have we all done it so purposely looking?

If he had his hands down by his sides he would have been fine but as he looks so relaxed there the court took a very unsympathetic view.
 
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Seriously, the guy is a retard, you are not in control of your vehicle unless you have at least one hand firmly on your steering wheel and both feet within reach of the appropriate pedal, to all the retards defending this guy, if someone runs into the road (a child chasing a ball which i have seen happen) or some other unforeseen circumstance and he was driving like that then there is nothing he could have done with both knees on the wheel to avoid whatever comes up.

It is totally unacceptable to drive your vehicle in this manner and anyone who thinks it is should seriously reconsider their risk assessment abilities, this is indefensible and if anything his punishment is too lenient.
 
Shame they didn't throw anything at this guy

Short-sighted driver who killed a dog-walker on a pedestrian crossing when he wasn’t wearing his glasses gets just 140 hours' COMMUNITY SERVICE


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-gets-just-140-hours-COMMUNITY-SERVICE.html

Is that not dangerous driving? Being unable to see = not being able to control your car = actually killing someone = lesser penalty?

I don't think the other guy has too harsh a penalty, this one is far too light, should be a lifetime ban and a few years inside at least in my opinion.
 
most of you who do 100 everywhere or drifting off every roundabout are far more dangerous than this guy IMO
It funny you said this as I only just seen someone post this youtube clip on my other forum afew days ago..

And to think this guy in this youtube clip is meant to be married with kids..:rolleyes:


Quote from this difter forum post below
i would like ebc too, but for use of the car atm (driving kids to kindergarten and wife to dinners or movies), and no track use in near future i hope they will work fine...
the stuff i do with the car are usually drifting around roudabouts in the middle of the night...so no premium brake disc needed :-)
 
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£60 victim surcharge? lol what victim? there was no incident? :p

yea bit of a numpty, everyone likes a stretch but does take the biscuit doing it for so long. think the punishment is a bit out of proportion though considering there was no incident.

Completely agree. Although it was a very stupid thing to do, the actual risk in that particular situation didn't seam that high and the punishment over the top. I can see why people who think they are about to get hit by a bus at any minute would be upset by him though.
 
That drifter is an idiot, why would you put that on youtube. It's quite clearly very illegal, yet he's quite happy to show off how much of an idiot he is?

He will get caught or crash eventually. Hopefully not taking anyone else with him.
 
I own a mk2 and i'm quite tall (6'1) so my knees are fairly close to the wheel.

You can use your knees to hold the wheel in position but you cant press down on the brakes and press up on the bottom of the wheel at the same time.
Holding a car in a straight line != being in control

is your brake servo working ? shouldnt need the full power and movement of your leg to stop a servo assisted car
 
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