Lawful killing of Mark Duggan

On principle I have to be against police brutality and with these sorts of events it is difficult to find out what happened. End of day the guy was shot and murdered and it turned out there was not justification for it. It would be manslaughter. Just like people driving a car and kill someone by accident.

They had come back with this verdict, it would be too much for them after the riots and everything to now claim that they did something wrong.

The real question for me is how has this affected the relationship between the police and the people. I think negatively in general and this might lead to even more negative result as police will reactionary become more strict or move towards police state more so. Where the police can get away with things on.

tldr i don't think the police learned any lesson from it and i think it could make them worse.
 
The real question for me is how has this affected the relationship between the police and the people. I think negatively in general and this might lead to even more negative result as police will reactionary become more strict
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I think that was the only point I agree with haha sorry.

Well maybe not just agree with but was correct.
 
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Mynight said:
Did any of them show remorse? Or did they believe they were doing the right thing?

(That's if you're allowed to say :confused:)
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Nah none showed remorse, until they came face to face with the real criminals, then they showed whatever they were told, the general consensus on the wings was of disdain for the rioters. They were treated as well as sex offenders. Lots of in-fighting for a few days until it died down.
 
Dis86 said:
He was not executed. He was lawfully killed as it was feared that he posed a threat to the safety of the officers present and the public, as you very well concede.
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Right, but if the Police had shot him because...

He was a nasty piece of work.
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And followed that up by claiming...

Now there is one less nasty piece of work in existence.

Or do you like dangerous criminals?
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That would be an execution. If he was indeed a dangerous criminal then the ideal is for the Police to bring him to face justice; it make utterly no difference who he was and what he did. The Police are there to bring him to justice.

There's nothing to cheer in the Police making a justified mistake.
 
Mr Jack said:
I'm confused by the people saying 'Great Result'.

The jury found it was a lawful killing, fair enough - I see no reason to believe they came to the wrong decision. But, ultimately, this was a sad tragedy - an unarmed man was shot. I don't see much to cheer.
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Well said, however don't expect much support of that civilized opinion on this disproportionately right wing forum, many here would bring back capital punishment if they could :rolleyes:
 
JOSH86 said:
Nah none showed remorse, until they came face to face with the real criminals, then they showed whatever they were told, the general consensus on the wings was of disdain for the rioters. They were treated as well as sex offenders. Lots of in-fighting for a few days until it died down.
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While I feel sorry for you having to deal with that kind of stuff I cannot help but be happy that they have had a crap time.
 
Happened to be watching Channel 4 when they were interviewing the mother and the fun pre-watershed swearing. The mother should really be talking about youth, drugs and weaponry and how this can happen if you take the wrong route, instead... Scaremongering.

Yes, unlawful killing if he was unarmed..

If somebody else (AKA: Not the police) were to have killed him, there would be no where near this much press coverage. People are on the "**** the police" bandwagon.
 
Lawful Killing. That which is committed with the intention to kill, or to do a grievous bodily injury, under circumstances which the law holds sufficient to exculpate the person who commits it.
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So not unlawful? :confused:
 
Mr Jack said:
There's nothing to cheer in the Police making a justified mistake.
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I'm just going to let that part sink in on you.

The fact that the police officer in question has been shown to have made the right decision in removing a vile human being from the gene pool is something to cheer.
He can go home knowing he is absolved of guilt.
 
Well at same time if there was no coverage the police officers may have gotten in more trouble for it. Compare to that guy that was pushed at the riots and died. That did not cause a riot but was similar. Both could have said that it was an accident to some extent.
 
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