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Hi All,

I know I recently asked for people input on a build. I went ahead and bought most of the things but have returned the giga oc board and 4770k cpu.

I will be going Ivy-E, I know that its overkill for my needs but I have the ability to build a system like this and have always wanted a top end PC.

This is my thoughts so far.

YOUR BASKET
2 x EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Classified "Dual BIOS" 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (03G-P4-3788-KR) £443.99 (£887.98)
1 x Intel 4930K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail (BX80633I74930K) £439.99
1 x Asus Rampage IV Extreme Black Edition Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard £419.99
1 x Corsair Obsidian 900D Super Tower Case (CC-9011022-WW) £299.99
1 x SuperFlower Leadex Platinum 1200W Fully Modular "80 Plus Platinum" Power Supply - Black (NESF-012) £199.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Beast 16GB (4x4GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Quad Channel Kit (KHX24C11T3K4/16X) £161.99
2 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC780 GTX Classified - Nickel £89.99 (£179.98)
2 x EK Water Blocks EK-CoolStream PE 480 (Quad) £59.99 (£119.98)
3 x Monsoon 16/10mm (ID 3/8 OD 5/8) Free Center Compression Fitting Six Pack - Black Chrome £27.95 (£83.85)
6 x Corsair SP120 Performance Series High Pressure - Dual Pack (CO-9050008-WW) £23.99 (£143.94)
2 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC780 GTX Classified Backplate - Black £21.95 (£43.90)
1 x Bitspower Mini-Valve - Black Sparkle £16.98
4 x Koolance QDC (High Flow) No-Spill Shutoff, Male for 10mm x 16mm (3/8in x 5/8in) £10.49 (£41.96)
2 x Koolance QDC (High Flow) Shutoff Nozzle, Female for 10mm x 16mm (3/8in x 5/8in) £9.98 (£19.96)
1 x Bitspower Black Sparkle "Q" Fitting - 360 Degree Water Cooling Accessory £9.98
3 x Monsoon 16/10mm (OD 5/8) Rotary 90° - Black Chrome £8.69 (£26.07)
3 x Monsoon 16/10mm (OD 5/8) Rotary 45° - Black Chrome £8.69 (£26.07)
2 x Koolance QDC (High Flow) Shutoff Nozzle Female, Threaded G 1/4 £7.99 (£15.98)
5 x Primochill Primoflex Advanced Tubing 16/10 - Clear £5.99 (£29.95)
2 x Bitspower Dual G1/4" High Flow Fitting - Black Sparkle £4.99 (£9.98)
4 x XSPC M20 Fillcap for Reservoirs and Pumps (Black Chrome) £1.49 (£5.96)
Total : £3,204.64 (includes shipping : £16.85).



I can still upgrade my EVGA 780 classy via step-up to a 780ti reference design. Will end up going tri sli at some point probably May/June :p

I aslo will be using these things from my current pc
EK Supreme HF CPU Waterblock - Nickel Plexi
EK CoolStream RAD XTX (360)
OcUK Tech Lab - XSPC D5 Vario Pump & Alphacool Clear HF D5 Top Value Combo

Would appreciate some thoughts on this. Will be a Black/Red/Black Chrome theme. :D

Many Thanks
Systemerror
 
You've spent £630 on water-cooling. Why? You could go traditional air cooling or an AIO and spend the difference on a better GPU solution now, faster CPU, etc.

Also your build is missing hard drives
 
I agree that you've gone a bit over the top on the water cooling. But i also think you're spending to much money in the wrong places of water cooling. You've put loads of money towards shut of valves and fittings you don't NEED. Okay if you want them fair enough. But then only gone for 2 thin(ish) radiators.

whereas i'd of spent the money on thicker rads.

I also think theres better case and motherboard options for you.

This would be my suggestion (i have included all you're rotaries as i got a bit lost seeing what you were trying to achieve.)

YOUR BASKET
2 x EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Classified "Dual BIOS" 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (03G-P4-3788-KR) £443.99 (£887.98)
1 x Intel 4930K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail (BX80633I74930K) £439.99
1 x Asus Rampage IV Extreme Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard £339.95
1 x Phanteks Enthoo Primo Full Tower Case £199.99
1 x Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 1200W "80 Plus Gold" Modular Power Supply £179.99
2 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC780 GTX Classified - Nickel £89.99 (£179.98)
2 x EK CoolStream RAD XTX (360) £74.99 (£149.98)
2 x TeamGroup Xtreem LV 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-21300C11 2666MHz Dual Channel Kit (TXD38G2666HC11CDC01) £69.95 (£139.90)
1 x EK-CoolStream RAD XTX (240) £64.99
3 x Monsoon 16/10mm (ID 3/8 OD 5/8) Free Center Compression Fitting Six Pack - Black Chrome £27.95 (£83.85)
1 x EK-FC Bridge TRIPLE Serial CSQ Plexi £21.98
2 x EK Water Blocks EK-FC780 GTX Classified Backplate - Black £21.95 (£43.90)
8 x Alpenföhn 120mm Wing Boost Plus PWM Fan - Red Clover Edition £12.95 (£103.60)
4 x Primochill Primoflex Advanced Tubing 16/10 - Clear £5.99 (£23.96)
Total : £2,880.22 (includes shipping : £16.85).

 

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Now he can spec. :)
 
Thanks for the replies, I should also have explained my self a bit better in honesty.

Firstly I will go over what I will retrieve from my current set-up.

1 * Corsair 900D (xmas pressie from wife so cant really change it)
1 * Evga 780 Classy
1 * Samsung Evo 250gb
2 * WD green 1tb
and then as above on the water cooling side I have
1 * EK Supreme HF CPU Waterblock - Nickel Plexi
1 * EK CoolStream RAD XTX (360)
1 * OcUK Tech Lab - XSPC D5 Vario Pump & Alphacool Clear HF D5 Top Value Combo

I went a bit made on the fittings as when I bought my fist WC parts I only bought enough fittings for what I need and now they will not be enough so have to replace everything. I don't like mix and match where possible to avoid so was just trying to make sure if I added more things I would have enough to do so.
The reason behind QDC was to make adding the next GPU easy and the tap and onther set of QDC for a drain point.

I was recently looking at MJFrosty's build log and really like the way he has connected the GPU's so will be doing something similar I think

Will go Res > pump > bottom 480 rad > 360 rad > CPU block > top 480 rad > GPU's > Res.

Thanks Doom for you spec, I really like those fans you linked also would you go with that TT psu over a Super Flower even if I went for the gold rated one instead of the Platinum? I have a HX 850 I can use tell they back in stock.

On another note you would agree stick with the 780's and not go 780ti?

I take it it does not matter using dual channel memory in the X79?

I have been reading a few reviews and am battling to see the main difference between the Rive and the RiveBE I must be stupid. Could you maybe help me on that in layman's terms besides looks and price.

thanks again really appreciate the input. :D
 
Stupid question but what is the issue with the 4770k and TriFire?


Curious to learn are we? :)

Well theres two amin reason, the first one is simple: bottlenecking. The 4770k will bottleneck those cards (3 780's). At the moment there is much different between the 4770k and 4930k (lets say) in bottleneck states but in future there will be. Last gen there wasn't any different between 3570k and 3770k in SLI/xfire configs now there is. This is due to software ultilisation.

The biggest reason though is the motherboard bandwidth. As im sure you know the 4390k and 4770k have different motherboards (sockets and chipsets), this is where the main difference comes.

The Z87 boards aren't suited for Tri-SLI. Some of them (like the Z87X-OC) will do Tri-Fire but only x8x/4/x4.. SLI needs atleast x8 to work..

Unless you spend £250+ on a Z87 mother you won't get there features.

Most of the 2011 boards have more bandwidth on the PCI-E lanes, which some even able to offer x16/x16/x16 for 3 cards setups.

Even a board with x16/x8/x8 or x8/x8/x8 will be good enough.

And spending £300+ on a motherboard for a 4 core, 8 thread processor (top end) is a bit silly when £300 would buy you a decent motherboard that can support 6 core CPUs. :)
 
Curious to learn are we? :)

Well theres two amin reason, the first one is simple: bottlenecking. The 4770k will bottleneck those cards (3 780's). At the moment there is much different between the 4770k and 4930k (lets say) in bottleneck states but in future there will be. Last gen there wasn't any different between 3570k and 3770k in SLI/xfire configs now there is. This is due to software ultilisation.

The biggest reason though is the motherboard bandwidth. As im sure you know the 4390k and 4770k have different motherboards (sockets and chipsets), this is where the main difference comes.

The Z87 boards aren't suited for Tri-SLI. Some of them (like the Z87X-OC) will do Tri-Fire but only x8x/4/x4.. SLI needs atleast x8 to work..

Unless you spend £250+ on a Z87 mother you won't get there features.

Most of the 2011 boards have more bandwidth on the PCI-E lanes, which some even able to offer x16/x16/x16 for 3 cards setups.

Even a board with x16/x8/x8 or x8/x8/x8 will be good enough.

And spending £300+ on a motherboard for a 4 core, 8 thread processor (top end) is a bit silly when £300 would buy you a decent motherboard that can support 6 core CPUs. :)

Thank you, I am currently toying with the idea of building a silly watercooled rig so just trying to do as much research as possible :)
 
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