Poll: Is kissing men gay? And is the Pope Catholic?

Is kissing men gay?

  • Gay

    Votes: 99 82.5%

  • Not gay

    Votes: 21 17.5%
  • Total voters
    120
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I have had a couple of beers, and I've only read the first page, but I have never laughed so much at a thread in my life.

Thankyou OP, you've made my evening.
 
Surely it depends if you enjoy it.

It would be like having intercourse with another man, if you enjoy it then I would say you are gay.

If you are doing it under duress then it is rape.

So, OP, do you enjoy kissing other men on the lips? That's the question.

But if I were another patron in the pub and sees 2 men kissing, or any 2 people kissing on the lips, it is not too far fetch to jump to conclusion to think they are intimate with each other (gender irrelevant), and if they happen to be the same gender then one would easily draw the conclusion that they are homosexuals.

Unless of course it became culturally acceptable and the norm to kiss your friends on the lips when you first greet them...but I don't think we are in that kind of society, i don't think even the French are!
 
TommyV said:
I live in North Bristol, and we have a large Business Park here. For that reason we have a lot of Indian people in IT come here to work.

I've seen on a few seperate occasions men walking holding hands in a local pub, walking to the shops etc... However I know for a fact they are not gay (in one instance I knew the chap, married, one kid).

I think it's just cultural, of which it isn't the 'norm' here in the UK.
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It used to be. It was largely the fallout from the Oscar Wilde case which stopped it being normal. Men became unwilling to show affection for their friends because they were worried (with very good reason) that they would be seen as being homosexual.
 
Angilion said:
Yes, it's very feminine...by mainstream current standards in this country.

Tiny woo. Gender is made up on the fly. It means nothing. It's as ephemeral and meaningless as fashion.

Look at the colour pink, for example. In less than 100 years in this country it has gone from being extremely masculine to being extremely feminine to being quite mildly feminine.

Lacy frills used to be masculine here. Short dresses were very masculine in ancient Rome and skirts even more so. Ordinary manly men would wear short dresses, but only the manliest of manly men, the legionaries, wore skirts, and the manliest of the legionaries (centurions, who earned their status and often died for it) also wore brightly coloured ornate headgear. Fabulous, darling, fabulous!

Gender is always changing and never genuinely important.
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tl;dr but GAY.
 
TommyV said:
I live in North Bristol, and we have a large Business Park here. For that reason we have a lot of Indian people in IT come here to work.

I've seen on a few seperate occasions men walking holding hands in a local pub, walking to the shops etc... However I know for a fact they are not gay (in one instance I knew the chap, married, one kid).

I think it's just cultural, of which it isn't the 'norm' here in the UK.
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No - that is totally gay. This kind of thing happens in India because it is a much more repressed society and what we would consider normal boy/girl relationships don't really occur (outside of the upper middle classes). Strangely it is more acceptable to hold hands with a bloke than a woman.

Besides an Indian being married is irrelevant to whether or not they are gay - it is likely he has had an arranged marriage, and is just going along with what his family expect.
 
Mr Badger said:
tl;dr but GAY.
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Oh aye, I'm as gay as a daisy.

That's got me wondering...why "daisy"?

Google to the rescue! It's lyrics from a song in a musical. Although it was from when "gay" meant "happy, with connotations of frivolousness".

Actually, I'm bisexual and mostly straight. Human sexual orientation is a spectrum, not two discrete groups or two and a bit (bisexuals are usually an afterthought group). I'm about 90/10 hetero/homo, at a rough guess. My beef is with gender, not sexual orientation. It's just mostly silly and it's even sillier to assign any importance to it.
 
I dont get people. They do sttuff that must be considered weird and a bit quirky but they post about it on the internet and are then suprised by the 100s of "freak" responses.

I do weird stuff and have quirks but i dont go posting about them or advertising them to the entire world.

There are some deeply socially/mentally retarded individuals out there. I cannot fathom how stupid people are sometimes.

It actually cheers me up knowing this.. I was in a weird/sad mood this morning but the thought of this guy washing his meat in a plastic cuphas really cheered me up.
 
Angilion said:
Oh aye, I'm as gay as a daisy.

Actually, I'm bisexual and mostly straight. Human sexual orientation is a spectrum, not two discrete groups or two and a bit (bisexuals are usually an afterthought group). I'm about 90/10 hetero/homo, at a rough guess. My beef is with gender, not sexual orientation. It's just mostly silly and it's even sillier to assign any importance to it.
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Sorry to break it to you but nope, you are infact gay. If you possess a sexual attraction, romantic attraction or engage in sexual behaviour with someone of the same sex you are by its very definition a homosexual.
Dress it up how you want but you really should just accept what you are.
Gender is a spectrum, sexual orientation is not. You are hetero, homo or bi (and here's the kicker, to be bi you must also be homo!). Well you can also be asexual too. Perhaps the very opposite of bi when you think about it.
 
Dis86 said:
Sorry to break it to you but nope, you are infact gay. If you possess a sexual attraction, romantic attraction or engage in sexual behaviour with someone of the same sex you are by its very definition a homosexual.
Dress it up how you want but you really should just accept what you are.
Gender is a spectrum, sexual orientation is not. You are hetero, homo or bi (and here's the kicker, to be bi you must also be homo!). Well you can also be asexual too. Perhaps the very opposite of bi when you think about it.
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robgmun said:
Oh dear, now the thread is going to go on for another 20 pages, well done Dis86
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Haha how totally true. I sense that when Dis86 said "to be bi you must also be homo" self-righteous ears all over the UK *****ed up. It's not enough to be disinterested in people's sexuality now, you have to agree that they were born like that and cannot possibly change no matter what.

edit: before anyone accuses me of angrily swearing I used that word in a perfectly reasonable and unsweary manner.
 
TommyV said:
I've seen on a few seperate occasions men walking holding hands in a local pub, walking to the shops etc... However I know for a fact they are not gay (in one instance I knew the chap, married, one kid).
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Why, just why? Why would you ever need to hold hands with another man unless you were gay?

Answer me that. I just don't get it.
 
Frightful Boar said:
It's not enough to be disinterested in people's sexuality now, you have to agree that they were born like that and cannot possibly change no matter what.
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Could you explain what's so outlandish about the idea that a person is predisposed to be in a particular point on the scale of sexuality as a result of nature?.

I mean, I didn't pick the fact I'm straight (neither could I just choose to be gay) - why would it be different for people who are not?.

Lysander said:
Why, just why? Why would you ever need to hold hands with another man unless you were gay?

Answer me that. I just don't get it.
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From my perspective I agree, but that's because we clearly both associate the act of hand holding with similar adults to be a more intimate affair.

But the simple act of holding a hand isn't sexual, we already have different rules for children or even very old people (I'd hold the hand of a child if say crossing the road, or to help an old lady down the road - but I wouldn't hold the hand on a normal aged girl outside of my girlfriend because within a certain age group it was additional conditions).

It's not that odd to simply add another condition into the mix.
 
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