Poll: Is kissing men gay? And is the Pope Catholic?

Is kissing men gay?

  • Gay

    Votes: 99 82.5%

  • Not gay

    Votes: 21 17.5%
  • Total voters
    120
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elmarko said:
But the simple act of holding a hand isn't sexual, we already have different rules for children or even very old people (I'd hold the hand of a child if say crossing the road, or to help an old lady down the road - but I wouldn't hold the hand on a normal aged girl outside of my girlfriend because within a certain age group it was additional conditions).
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I'm not buying this one, as usual you are overintellectualising. You hold a child's hand to guide them, same with old people. When we reach adulthood holding hands with someone takes on a different meaning, meaning you are either romantically involved or you would like to be. Everyone doing it must be conscious of this connotation. It is simply unbelievable to me in every respect that men holding hands are unaware of the highly homosexual signals it gives out.
 
Lysander said:
I'm not buying this one, as usual you are overintellectualising. You hold a child's hand to guide them, same with old people. When we reach adulthood holding hands with someone takes on a different meaning, meaning you are either romantically involved or you would like to be. Everyone doing it must be conscious of this connotation. It is simply unbelievable to me in every respect that men holding hands are unaware of the highly homosexual signals it gives out.
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I'm not saying it won't be viewed as homosexual behaviour by the average member of public, I'm saying that if a given culture includes plutonic friendship as another one of these conditions in which it's considered fine then is entirely possible.

You are simply ascribing your subjective interpretation of the event to it being intrinsically that way - just because you view the act of two people holding hands as homosexual it doesn't mean that everybody who does is homosexual or that viewpoint rings true for everybody.

I'd argue you are over-simplifying it to fit your pre-existing bias & cultural conditioning, for some people it does mean more - for others it doesn't, it's not as clear cut (not that it matters either way, assuming both people are happy with it who cares).
 
I see what you're saying. I also consider anal sex between two adult men to be homosexual. However, if they see it as a platonic extension of their existant friendship who am I to judge.
 
WHAT? Look, you kiss your mate on the lips in this country - soooo gay. Does it mean you are gay? No, of course not. Its a cultural thing, men hold hands in other cultures but here thats a gay thing. Whether or not you are actually gay is all about whats inside you -and if thats your mate, then yup! lol.
 
OP, if either of you closes your eyes then you should be more honest with yourselves.

And then you'll realise that only small minded people care what you do.
 
You appear aware of the general distaste most people have for furries whilst also self-identifying as one. This is self awareness which I find entertaining and also horrifying. Does this clarify matters?
 
[FnG]magnolia;25665662 said:
You appear aware of the general distaste most people have for furries whilst also self-identifying as one. This is self awareness which I find entertaining and also horrifying. Does this clarify matters?
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I'm confident that nobody cares what I self-identify as :)

People have more important things to worry about :p
 
Dis86 said:
Sorry to break it to you but nope, you are infact gay. If you possess a sexual attraction, romantic attraction or engage in sexual behaviour with someone of the same sex you are by its very definition a homosexual.
Dress it up how you want but you really should just accept what you are.
Gender is a spectrum, sexual orientation is not. You are hetero, homo or bi (and here's the kicker, to be bi you must also be homo!). Well you can also be asexual too. Perhaps the very opposite of bi when you think about it.
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That makes no sense at all. Your claim that everyone is either absolutely 100% totally heterosexual in all ways at all times in deed, thought and feeling or they're homosexual just doesn't match up with reality. It's a false dichotomy.

Maybe you should just accept what I am rather than pretending I'm something else so that you can fit me into your false dichotomy.

If I was homosexual, I would say I was homosexual. If I was heterosexual, I would say that I was heterosexual. If I was 50/50 bisexual, I would say that. I'm well aware of my sexual orientation and I described it accurately. The fact that reality doesn't fit into your false dichotomy isn't my problem. I don't need to accept your error. Sexual orientation on the homo-hetero thing is very obviously a spectrum.
 
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Lysander said:
Why, just why? Why would you ever need to hold hands with another man unless you were gay?

Answer me that. I just don't get it.
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You wouldn't need to, but the meaning of holding hands is whatever custom assigns to it. You (and most people in this place and time) see it as a public declaration of a sexual relationship (or maybe a romantic relationship with sexual desire but not actual sex yet), but that meaning isn't inherent in holding hands. It could just as easily be seen as a public declaration of friendship or alliance or mutual business interests or support for the same sports team or anything else.
 
Devlish said:
WHAT? Look, you kiss your mate on the lips in this country - soooo gay. Does it mean you are gay? No, of course not. Its a cultural thing, men hold hands in other cultures but here thats a gay thing. Whether or not you are actually gay is all about whats inside you -and if thats your mate, then yup! lol.
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Have you seen Steve Hughes' standup bit about "straight is the new gay"? He makes a similar point. I'd link to it, but it's full of swearing so it would be against the rules here. I think it's hilarious.
 
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